Are any of the (good) MLP songs in G Sharp major

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Are any of the (good) MLP songs in G Sharp major

Postby Some guy » 07 Dec 2014 10:55

Title. Good as in not bats or find a pet etc. If not I'm just gonna drop it to F Sharp Major but I'd rather not.
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Re: Are any of the (good) MLP songs in G Sharp major

Postby CitricAcid » 07 Dec 2014 13:17

The short answer is no. No song in MLP is written in G sharp major. I'd venture to say that no song exists in G sharp major that is meant to be taken seriously.

That being said, there might be some in A flat, but I haven't checked.
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Re: Are any of the (good) MLP songs in G Sharp major

Postby Injustrial » 07 Dec 2014 13:46

Out of curiosity, what's the difference between the two? (I'm an idiot)
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Re: Are any of the (good) MLP songs in G Sharp major

Postby CitricAcid » 07 Dec 2014 14:07

Injustrial wrote:Out of curiosity, what's the difference between the two? (I'm an idiot)

Performers will hate you for writing a piece in G sharp major. It would be unnecessarily difficult to read, since there would be an F double sharp in the key signature. It would technically sound the same as A flat major, if you ignore the fact that your performers will likely make more mistakes when playing it.
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Re: Are any of the (good) MLP songs in G Sharp major

Postby Some guy » 07 Dec 2014 15:00

CitricAcid wrote:The short answer is no. No song in MLP is written in G sharp major. I'd venture to say that no song exists in G sharp major that is meant to be taken seriously.

That being said, there might be some in A flat, but I haven't checked.

Well that's total bullcrap, G sharp major is popular in house. All the MLP tracks are sequenced in computer programs anyway so it doesn't matter about reading the music if it's all in piano roll anyway.


EDIT: Oh right you had a different reason for it, but regardless G sharp major is used.
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Re: Are any of the (good) MLP songs in G Sharp major

Postby Stuntddude » 07 Dec 2014 17:36

Well, no, it's not. That's like saying that D# is part of the C minor scale.
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Re: Are any of the (good) MLP songs in G Sharp major

Postby eery » 08 Dec 2014 01:48

Stuntddude wrote:Well, no, it's not. That's like saying that D# is part of the C minor scale.


Well, since E flat and D sharp is the same key, I dont understand how you treat it as so unforgivable. Seems pretty dense.
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Re: Are any of the (good) MLP songs in G Sharp major

Postby Stuntddude » 08 Dec 2014 08:04

Whoever said it's unforgivable? It's just an indicator that you and Some guy probably need to brush up on your music theory.
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Re: Are any of the (good) MLP songs in G Sharp major

Postby eery » 08 Dec 2014 09:44

why me, I knew it wasnt.

Im just saying its a technical difference and it doesnt matteeeeeeer. Esspeccially when I never ever touch notation beyond piano rolls.
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Re: Are any of the (good) MLP songs in G Sharp major

Postby Pulse Wave » 24 Dec 2014 15:35

Well, a select few of us musical bronies have. It's those of us who are easily annoyed by the misuse of enharmonic equivalents (which didn't even exist before the invention of the well-tempered tuning). No offense, but that's the way it is.

There are actually only twelve major keys (unless you go crazy with sharps and flats just because you think you can):
F♯/G♭ — D♭ — A♭ — E♭ — B♭ — F — C — G — D — A — E — B — (back to F♯)
As they're always one fifth above the previous, and as they go around in a circle, they make up the so-called circle of fifths.
The twelve corresponding minor keys are:
d♯/e♭ — b♭ — f — c — g — d — a — e — b — f♯ — c♯ — g♯ — (back to d♯)

Also, there are never sharps and flats within the same scale. Ever. No exception.
The A♭ scale is: A♭ — B♭ — C — D♭ — E♭ — F — G — A♭.
A G♯ scale would be G♯ — A♯ — B♯ — C♯ — D♯ — E♯ — F♯♯ — G♯. A purely theoretical scale with eight sharps whose actually existing enharmonic equivalent only has four flats.

So everything you believe is G♯ is actually A♭.

(Come to think of it, none of my bandmates ever uses flats. For them, everything is a sharp. And they've probably all been making music for even longer than me, and one of them is a piano player who should know better. Guess that's a common misconception by guitar and bass players.)
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Re: Are any of the (good) MLP songs in G Sharp major

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