Official Discussion Thread (Ghost Edit)

[simonli2575]

I got a spotlight onto EQD today. I started that song 24 hours ago. I spent about 1 hour and 10 minutes making it. I submitted it this morning. Instant acceptance. What!?!?

Just listened to it, it was nice but I felt post-apocalypse (or some name relating to this) could be a better title. Congrats on making your first(?) spotlight on EQD.

[Viricide Filly]

Yeah man congrats ^^

[ph00tbag]

I got a spotlight onto EQD today. I started that song 24 hours ago. I spent about 1 hour and 10 minutes making it. I submitted it this morning. Instant acceptance. What!?!?

Congrats. I'm sure you'll wind up feeling like some of your best stuff doesn't get the credit it deserves, and the stuff you don't feel you put enough effort into, or weren't particularly effective at, will get more recognition than you think it warrants.

[Viricide Filly]

I still prefer Vinyl over CDs and I think they definitely sound better than CDs. There's nothing quite like taking that huge round bit of plastic out of a beautiful gate fold record and sticking it onto the player, putting the needle down, hearing the vinyl crackle just before the first song hits etc. There's something magical about it that CDs don't have. What's so fun or cool about putting a small shiney disc into an automatic CD drive? You may as well just have the MP3s on your computer instead. At least then you won't have to be careful with smudging the damn CD.
Whenever I listen to records the quality is so raw and..welll.."there". And don't ask me what I mean by Raw. I dunno how to explain it but it's the only word I can find that'll fit with what I'm trying to get at. Anyways. It feels like the band's actually there in the room at times, especially if you close your eyes and just listen. CDs feel extremely temporary to me. You put it in your computer, rip it, and there you go. Your over-produced tat is ready to be double clicked any time you want to listen to it through your sennheisers or whatever. It takes away so much of the magic that it's almost depressing at times. I always try and look for a record of an album I want if I want a physical copy of it because to me, Records are just better.

[Bronies Are Cool]

Congrats

Thanks.

I got a spotlight onto EQD today. I started that song 24 hours ago. I spent about 1 hour and 10 minutes making it. I submitted it this morning. Instant acceptance. What!?!?

Congrats. I'm sure you'll wind up feeling like some of your best stuff doesn't get the credit it deserves, and the stuff you don't feel you put enough effort into, or weren't particularly effective at, will get more recognition than you think it warrants.

I agree with this 100% right now. This song had almost no effort put into it. I was actually originally making this song an trying to copy Porter Robinson on one of his recent songs for part of it. And I just made a little thin around it and thought it sounded a bit more like a battle scene and apocalypse type song thingy. So, I finished it like that and then sent it to EQD just to see what would happen.
This is also kind of my first mlp song. Buts its kind of PINO tbh. I only got the idea of destruction and tirek in the last 20 minutes of making this. I didn't start off trying to make a pony song. [prepares for disapproving piers]

[Stuntddude]

Granted, when a CD is played back in less than ideal conditions, after improper storage, it's hard to argue that it still sounds "good."

Not necessarily true - information on CDs is stored in purely digital form, so any degradation in quality would have to come from physical damage (scratches, mostly) causing data corruption. And even then, the chances of that causing a slight degradation in quality are virtually nil - it's far, far, far more likely to result in outright corruption - that is, a short burst of garbage data (static) at a point where it's scratched, or some sort of skipping effect. At that point it's not really a matter if it sounding "good" anymore and more a matter of it being uncorrupted. Other than that, by the very nature of it being digital, you'll get the exact same data, bit-for-bit, every time you play the CD unless it's acutely damaged.

Basically, people only ever listen to low-fi mediums like vinyl or cassettes for one of two reasons:
1. They don't actually understand how audio works, and are under the false impression that vinyl offers better quality, or that analog stuff is better than the equivalent digital stuff (both of which are obviously false if you have a decent understanding of audio engineering and how digital and analog sound actually work).
2. They understand that they're getting a lower-fidelity sound, but they don't mind because they like having physical, analog mediums for music as part of the aesthetic of listening that helps them enjoy the music better, or they're fond of the little imperfections that come from the medium that give it a distinctive, or "colored," sound.

Specifically with the first half of reason #2, the same often goes for getting physical CDs as opposed to digital downloads. Many people find there's just something nice and satisfying about having a real material version of the music, although with CDs there's not (usually) a quality difference, as the digital data you're getting is oftentimes literally identical.

Obviously, the second is a totally valid reason for preferring vinyl and cassette stuff, and the first is not. I can't personally related to either reason at all, but I think it's important to recognize the legitimacy of the different ways that different people prefer to experience art (in this case, music).

[ExoBassTix]

I wonder what would happen if someone on MLR would step up and create a compilation project for Avant-Garde music.

[ph00tbag]

Not necessarily true - information on CDs is stored in purely digital form, so any degradation in quality would have to come from physical damage (scratches, mostly) causing data corruption. And even then, the chances of that causing a slight degradation in quality are virtually nil - it's far, far, far more likely to result in outright corruption - that is, a short burst of garbage data (static) at a point where it's scratched, or some sort of skipping effect. At that point it's not really a matter if it sounding "good" anymore and more a matter of it being uncorrupted. Other than that, by the very nature of it being digital, you'll get the exact same data, bit-for-bit, every time you play the CD unless it's acutely damaged.

Well, this is really what I'm referring to. If a CD is degraded enough that data is lost (let's say through corrosion caused by an imperfect seal in the plastic), and skipping occurs as a result, then yeah, I think you'd have to have a pretty malleable definition of good to really enjoy it.

[Bronies Are Cool]

I wonder what would happen if someone on MLR would step up and create a compilation project for Avant-Garde music.

Please inform my ignorant mind on what this is

[ph00tbag]

Avant-Garde is more just a description of intent than a genre. Usually stuff that's Avant-Garde is just plain weird. I remember having to perform one tune as part of a music seminar in high school that involved waving a sheet of aluminum, sighing, and strumming piano strings.

It's interesting, though. Audiences these days are typically tolerant of some really out there stuff. Avant-Garde used to be about challenging preconceptions about music, and the greatest measure of your success was whether you caused a riot. These days you can pretty much feed the audience anything, and they'll just take whatever you give them. I feel that dynamic makes the performances much less entertaining.

[Stuntddude]

Well, this is really what I'm referring to. If a CD is degraded enough that data is lost (let's say through corrosion caused by an imperfect seal in the plastic), and skipping occurs as a result, then yeah, I think you'd have to have a pretty malleable definition of good to really enjoy it.

Okay, I was a bit confused. Sorry to be so reiterative.

[ExoBassTix]

One's definition of quality is subjective, guys :P

[LFP]

But that doesn't matter in the context if CDs lose quality.
Since there's pretty much no quality loss when playing/converting to a cd, it doesn't matter if your definition for quality is a super-distorted ear shattering sound, there's still no loss in quality =)

[eery]

One's definition of quality is subjective, guys :P

No, its really not. Not in this context. We're talking about how good of a storage medium for information it is. The format that deteriorates less over time, does have the better quality.

[FritzyBeat]

One's definition of quality is subjective, guys :P

No, its really not. Not in this context. We're talking about how good of a storage medium for information it is. The format that deteriorates less over time, does have the better quality.

Rather, the format that deteriorates less over time has the better longevity, something can still be crap but last for a long time in the same shape as when it was first purchased, hence why the term quality is subjective. However, if you base your judgment of quality on how long something will stay tip-top over time, then yes that can very much equal quality, but quality for someone else may still be based on a different medium. Therefore, quality is still subjective as long as different types of the same product have different advantages that fit different people's needs.

I have no Idea what we're talking about here, I just had to jump in and play the grammar nazi. Have a cookie~

[TWILICORN]

Oh god what have I started

[ExoBassTix]

I thought people were talking about why cassette/vinyl/CD is all-over superior to all other media sorts whatever.
And it all comes down on what your priorities are.
Nostalgia, high-quality, and experience are all factors that apply.

[Berri]

i have the tumblrs now!!?1?1! https://www.tumblr.com/blog/notberri

[Bronies Are Cool]

I have a ten page paper due tomorrow. I have not started on it. :/ what am I even doing on here?

[ph00tbag]

Sauce for those of you into the learnings!

Man, this was a great read, even if most of the info was nothing new to me. Then I made the mistake of reading this follow-up article on the same site, and it made me want to tear my face off with my nub-bitten fingernails.

[Bronies Are Cool]

I have a painting I made of princess Luna. I'm gonna try to sell it for big $$$ because its Luna and people pay large amounts of money for that. But, I decided I would give a discount to my peeps here on mlr before I try to sell it to the general public. I'll get a picture up soon. I'll start off at just $40 for it. Except, I won't pay shipping. Really, the only person that won't have to worry about shipping is freeware because he lives like 2 towns away from me. So, yea. It's a big canvas. Like, 16inches by 20 inches. I'll post the images somewhere. Idk. Maybe email me if you are interested and ill send you an email of the image of the painting.

[email protected]

[Makkon]

Bro, you probably won't get any bites unless you post an image. It really helps to catch people's eye.

[ExoBassTix]

http://eurobeatblog.com/tumblr-mlp-fan- ... uy-started

I think this is a very important post for all members of this forum (and the comments too mind you).
It's long, yes, but I believe it captures perfectly what's gone wrong over time in the brony music scene, and why it did. If you have some time to do a read, I suggest you read it.

I mean, FiMMusic reblogged this post. Twice. And Sethisto replied in an honest manner to the post. That sounds important enough.

[Acsii]

Oh hey there Mr. Iceberg :3 and yea Bac post images

[Bronies Are Cool]

I'll take Makkon's wonderful advice.....later. I gotta go to school and take some finals today. If only my phones actually had service, I would actually be able to do stuff on the go.