Official Discussion Thread (Ghost Edit)

[ExoBassTix]

I've been meaning to say this for a while.

Maybe, just maybe the kitchen bots are encouraged by the fact that all of their threads get a ton of posts from people who seem to feel that they have to constantly respond.

Had to reply before the thread is locked O3O

Case in point.

Just report the post and move on with your day.

Exactly this. Bots are the same as trolls in this situation: feed them, they'll continue doing what they're doing.

[Captain Ironhelm]

(Figure I'll post here rather than creating a new thread)

To everyone who sells music on Bandcamp

How has your experience been with it? Would you recommend it to others? Are there any limitations it has that you dislike?

I'm considering signing up for it but all the legalese makes me wary. I understand that a lot of it is just them covering their ass and so probably won't really affect things, but I still don't want to jump blindly into anything.

Fairly good with my experiences. Basically you retain ownership of your music, but they get their 15% (or whatever) cut on sales made on bandcamp. way better royalties than a service like itunes offers (last I checked they kept about 90%, may be wrong but it's way higher than bandcamp). You're on your own with marketing. However being in the top 10 sellers can give a slight boost in sales.

[Stuntddude]

You're on your own with marketing.

Well that's not entirely true, they do have very good SEO, so they're at least helpful in that respect.

Anyways, my experience with bandcamp is it's fantastic. I know a lot of people who use bandcamp and I've never heard of anyone having any issues, legal or otherwise. They take a small cut of profit and they allow people to pay more than the minimum (which makes a distinct difference - bandcamp stats show people paying ~50% more than the minimum, on average). It's relatively straightforward to use, you retain prety much all rights to your music, and perhaps my favorite thing of all is they do all your encoding and metadata for you. It is extremely good as a musician, so much so that I've had a better experience with it as a musician than as a customer.

[Bronies Are Cool]

Band camp is cool except I have had 0 sales :(

[Magnitude Zero]

I've been meaning to say this for a while.

Maybe, just maybe the kitchen bots are encouraged by the fact that all of their threads get a ton of posts from people who seem to feel that they have to constantly respond.

Had to reply before the thread is locked O3O

Case in point.

Just report the post and move on with your day.

Exactly this. Bots are the same as trolls in this situation: feed them, they'll continue doing what they're doing.

90% sure this is not how bots work.

Which do you think is more likely: bots carefully considering each forum with algorithms based on number of bot threads already in existence and number of posts each receives, or bots just spamming any forum they can regardless of all that? Which do you think takes more processing power?

They don't gain anything by not spamming a forum. I have no idea why you guys think they're so selective.

[Ricky Denzel]

and Maud Pie has the character depth of a rock.

Anyway, yesterday I played at GOATS (Going off at the swamp) festival. It rained the whole day, attendance was very low, and the band before mine went way over time, forcing the people who run the festival to cut our 20 minute set down to 8 minutes, or 2 and a half songs. But after they decided to cut our set short they then decided that that was unfair and let every other band play their full sets. All in all the whole day just kind of sucked and I spent the day before preparing stuff for it and then yesterday there doing nothing when in the end it was barely worth even setting up for it.

But I won a large plush snake with sunglasses on it, and I pat a baby goat, so that was aight.

[Coloriot]

(We're no longer discussing fish, plz change it back)

So we're doing this thing in AP World History, where we select a world empire, and we get to debate on why ours is the best. I have the British Empire. Any of you Brits wanna brag on your history? Or maybe talk trash on the Song Dynasty? (I face them in a week).

[Stuntddude]

The Song dynasty invented movable type and then hardly even did anything with it. They could have brought widespread literacy to the world, but instead they just sat around on their asses and never realized the potential of mass printing. What losers, amirite?

[Alycs]

Have fun trying to trash the Song Dynasty. China in that time period underwent one of its greatest periods of scientific and intellectual growth, along with pioneering the world's first known system of paper bank-noting and country wide literacy from it's widespread avocation of the movable printing press... (don't know where stuntdude got that they didn't do anything with it...)

Thankfully, the British empire a pretty damn big both in terms of achievements and size, concentrate on your empires strong points, but don't try to bash the Song Dynasty because that'll just be a bad time all around.

[Coloriot]

but don't try to bash the Song Dynasty because that'll just be a bad time all around.

How it works is that we have two minutes each to describe our empire, and one minute to refute the other empire, listing their weak points in their overall empire and speech.

[azerty]

(We're no longer discussing fish, plz change it back)

So we're doing this thing in AP World History, where we select a world empire, and we get to debate on why ours is the best. I have the British Empire. Any of you Brits wanna brag on your history? Or maybe talk trash on the Song Dynasty? (I face them in a week).

I'm not a Brit myself but I am a bona fide Anglophile and history buff; here's some tidbits about the empire on which the sun never sets.

• The British Empire was among the first to utilize and emphasize technology for the purpose of expansion and conquest. Isambard Kingdom Brunel's famed SS Great Britain, the record-breaking steamship, enabled British citizens - and troops - to cross oceans extremely quickly and in large numbers. The telegraph also connected the widespread territories of the Empire, facilitating communication and keeping the Empire strung together.
• Canada, and later Britain, established a national (or, rather, imperial) holiday known as Empire Day, in which the members of the British Empire could celebrate being part of the powerful intercontinental empire that was the envy of the rest of the world. What other empire's colonies ever celebrated being subjugated?
• The British Empire was the largest in history. Controlling approximately 23% of land area and 20% of world population at its height, it dwarfed the SPQR (4.36% land area), the Spanish Empire (12.3% population), and the measly Southern Song Dynasty (1.41% land area).
• Britain had arguably the easiest and friendliest letting-go process for its holdings. Most colonies were granted autonomy in a gradual process, with little to no rebellion therein. For example, in Egypt, the Suez Crisis was painlessly resolved by British peacekeeping forces before a full insurrection could break out. The Brits still hold over a dozen overseas territories, none of whom are opposed to foreign rule. The "end of Empire" was reached in one of the most peaceful and diplomatic methods possible, with the conquerors releasing the conquered instead of the latter fighting to escape the former.

Hope this helps! Good luck on the AP exam!

[Bronies Are Cool]

I had a super average day today and made some super Average music using super average sounds and automations and some super average mixing and sound design.

[Callenby]

Fairly good with my experiences. Basically you retain ownership of your music, but they get their 15% (or whatever) cut on sales made on bandcamp. way better royalties than a service like itunes offers (last I checked they kept about 90%, may be wrong but it's way higher than bandcamp). You're on your own with marketing. However being in the top 10 sellers can give a slight boost in sales.

You're on your own with marketing.

Well that's not entirely true, they do have very good SEO, so they're at least helpful in that respect.

Anyways, my experience with bandcamp is it's fantastic. I know a lot of people who use bandcamp and I've never heard of anyone having any issues, legal or otherwise. They take a small cut of profit and they allow people to pay more than the minimum (which makes a distinct difference - bandcamp stats show people paying ~50% more than the minimum, on average). It's relatively straightforward to use, you retain prety much all rights to your music, and perhaps my favorite thing of all is they do all your encoding and metadata for you. It is extremely good as a musician, so much so that I've had a better experience with it as a musician than as a customer.

Just because I want to make absolutely sure, I can assume that retaining ownership means that they don't care if you upload your music to other sites (and even make it downloadable)? That's one of my main concerns.

Probably a noob question, but then again I am new to selling things online.

My idea is to set up a page for pay-what-you-want, where people can contribute some money if they feel it's worth it but aren't obligated to.

[Acsii]

Hey guys look who's back :3
So to the guitarists on here are you guys nodders too?
I'm a strat nodder mainly because I know a place to get really cheap starts that I can mod :3 My next one will be a multi switch one with a varitone

[Mr. Bigglesworth]

So I had my second music theory exam today. The exam itself was nothing spectacularly hard, but damn I feel stupid for holding off on actually learning theory. Since I started at uni I've gotten like 3x better at writing melodies and chord progressions.

Also getting lunch in this city when you only have a debit card on you is annoying as hell. Like 6/10 places have a $10 minimum and the rest are either terrible food or cash only. Still, got a decent cappicino out of the whole venture.

[Captain Ironhelm]

Just because I want to make absolutely sure, I can assume that retaining ownership means that they don't care if you upload your music to other sites (and even make it downloadable)? That's one of my main concerns.

...

yes you can do whatever you want with your music. (assuming you do not sign exclusivity to somebody else.)

[Mr. Bigglesworth]

^ I'd recommend reading up on copyright when it comes to signing anything. There's a lot of potential to get really screwed over if you don't know exactly what you're signing. The Beetles didn't own a lot of their songs because they didn't know the contract signed the rights over, for example.

[ph00tbag]

My idea is to set up a page for pay-what-you-want, where people can contribute some money if they feel it's worth it but aren't obligated to.

This is what I use Bandcamp for, and I'd say it's pretty good for that. Soundcloud may do that, too, and I don't know if it does it better, but I'm really satisfied with Bandcamp's system. I'm thinking, however, of setting up some kind of tip jar thing (probably through PayPal) so people can just donate directly, and not have to choose between a buck a tune or free (which is basically what Bandcamp offers), and just give me what they feel I deserve, when they feel I deserve it.

[Callenby]

Fret not. I haven't signed any contracts, nor do I have any plans to.

My idea is to set up a page for pay-what-you-want, where people can contribute some money if they feel it's worth it but aren't obligated to.

This is what I use Bandcamp for, and I'd say it's pretty good for that. Soundcloud may do that, too, and I don't know if it does it better, but I'm really satisfied with Bandcamp's system. I'm thinking, however, of setting up some kind of tip jar thing (probably through PayPal) so people can just donate directly, and not have to choose between a buck a tune or free (which is basically what Bandcamp offers), and just give me what they feel I deserve, when they feel I deserve it.

Now there's an idea. I might want to do that instead. I'll have to think about it.

[Stuntddude]

so people can just donate directly, and not have to choose between a buck a tune or free (which is basically what Bandcamp offers)

Huh? Could you elaborate on that? Because as far as I know that's not what bandcamp does at all...

[LFP]

Today is bloo's birthday, when she makes her yearly visit hopefully she'll see this ^^
HAPPY BIRTHDAY BLOO

[JSynth]

I feel extremely awkward wishing people happy birthday. Like, I feel like I should do it, cause I guess people like it, bu I also feel kind of hypocritical.(Not sure if that's the right word to use here.)

[Bronies Are Cool]

I have been working on a song over the last few days and I am actually spending time on this one. Usually I spend just an hour or so on a song to just get something out and call it good. But this time I am trying to pull out all the stops I can muster to create something cool.
It's a house song with the build of a dubstep or DnB song. Weird right. So right now in my WIP, I mostly new to work on the build up after the fall and then I need to master the track some more. Today, I spent most d my time structuring my song. Yesterday, I built the pieces tote song and Monday was when I was constructing segments of the song. Anyway, I am excited to be making this. :D I can't wait to show everyone the things I have learned in the less-than-a-year that I've been making music.

[Ricky Denzel]

I have been working on a song over the last few days and I am actually spending time on this one. Usually I spend just an hour or so on a song to just get something out and call it good. But this time I am trying to pull out all the stops I can muster to create something cool.
It's a house song with the build of a dubstep or DnB song. Weird right. So right now in my WIP, I mostly new to work on the build up after the fall and then I need to master the track some more. Today, I spent most d my time structuring my song. Yesterday, I built the pieces tote song and Monday was when I was constructing segments of the song. Anyway, I am excited to be making this. :D I can't wait to show everyone the things I have learned in the less-than-a-year that I've been making music.

On a serious note: How could you juggle all that?

[Mr. Bigglesworth]

Turns out this dude I've known over soundcloud for about 2 years goes to my uni. We were walking along on a coffee run and we started talking production and when I asked for his soundcloud we both had this massive 'HOLY SHIT" moment.

It was pretty neat