The hugging/venting thread

[Freewave]

Orchestral is expensive, there's no doubt about it. If you plan to pay it will take a lot of time to afford. That much is true.

[Motivfs]

@FW I do indeed plan to pay, and I'm fine in waiting to do so.

@eery. Yeah, I guess it's a matter of doing something different. I've always been so fixated on Drum & Bass, but as I've continuously produced it, I've tried adding bits of Orchestral into it. Now it's taking over my music, and the VSTs I use don't cut it. I guess DnB has gotten bland for me to produce and Orchestral, as you said will "mess up my view on music a bit".

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Maybe even just make some hardcore screeching dubstep which I so much as despise.

[Conduit]

@FW I do indeed plan to pay, and I'm fine in waiting to do so.

@eery. Yeah, I guess it's a matter of doing something different. I've always been so fixated on Drum & Bass, but as I've continuously produced it, I've tried adding bits of Orchestral into it. Now it's taking over my music, and the VSTs I use don't cut it. I guess DnB has gotten bland for me to produce and Orchestral, as you said will "mess up my view on music a bit".

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Maybe even just make some hardcore screeching dubstep which I so much as despise.

If you want to make some orchestral, and have every thing except the sample libraries to do it, you could compose something and send me the midi, and I'll run it through Kontakt. I have some pretty nice sounding stuff, so if you can use whatever default library you have, or free soundfonts, you should be able to get it to a point where I can just throw it in, and send you back the audio files.

EDIT: This might be a bit tedious for you, and its far from a perfect solution, but if it helps you through your creative block I would be glad to help.

[Motivfs]

If you want to make some orchestral, and have every thing except the sample libraries to do it, you could compose something and send me the midi, and I'll run it through Kontakt. I have some pretty nice sounding stuff, so if you can use whatever default library you have, or free soundfonts, you should be able to get it to a point where I can just throw it in, and send you back the audio files.

EDIT: This might be a bit tedious for you, and its far from a perfect solution, but if it helps you through your creative block I would be glad to help.

That's an incredibly generous offer from you, and I appreciate you putting that out in the open for me, but I'd rather do everything on my own will. I'll manage waiting through it. In the meantime I can study how to properly do Orchestral arrangement. ADSR, Panning, Volume, Stereo, what consists of an actual Orchestra -etc.

I thank you for the offer.

[Conduit]

If you want to make some orchestral, and have every thing except the sample libraries to do it, you could compose something and send me the midi, and I'll run it through Kontakt. I have some pretty nice sounding stuff, so if you can use whatever default library you have, or free soundfonts, you should be able to get it to a point where I can just throw it in, and send you back the audio files.

EDIT: This might be a bit tedious for you, and its far from a perfect solution, but if it helps you through your creative block I would be glad to help.

That's an incredibly generous offer from you, and I appreciate you putting that out in the open for me, but I'd rather do everything on my own will. I'll manage waiting through it. In the meantime I can study how to properly do Orchestral arrangement. ADSR, Panning, Volume, Stereo, what consists of an actual Orchestra -etc.

I thank you for the offer.

Your welcome, I understand how nice it is to do everything from start to finish, just wanted to give you some options.

If you ever want to talk about orchestral stuff or anything really add me on skype.

[Motivfs]

For sure! I don't use Skype that much anymore but I'll be sure to add you when I get the chance.

[Pickslide1992]

Motivfs, I guess you could say I'm in that kind of musical rut myself, but I've always pigeon-holed myself into rock or metal, and I never really tried to experiment with other genres because they were out of my comfort zone, so I suffer a bit of stagnation, if you will. Being a one-man band doesn't help either (Playing guitar and synths, programming drums and such, etc.).

[Facade]

oh god i just feel like putting my fist through a wall right now

oh why oh why cant i just die but nooo i have to live out this shit

[Pickslide1992]

oh god i just feel like putting my fist through a wall right now

oh why oh why cant i just die but nooo i have to live out this shit

Facade, what seems to be the problem, man? Punching your fist through a wall certainly won't solve anything except if you're looking for a broken wrist and a hospital visit.

But on a serious note, what's eating you enough to suggest such a thing? If it's something private, feel free to PM me, but otherwise we want to help. At least I do.

[Facade]

whats the point? we live just to die? all i hear is this shit about do something for people etc etc why? we all die thats it the point of life is to die am i wrong to want that to happen sooner?

[Pickslide1992]

While I understand that we all have our time to meet our maker, yes ending your life too soon is a terrible thing. The fact you're reaching out in this thread is a sign that you need help, since most folks who do go through with suicide already do it without making it known.

I would suggest looking for a suicide prevention hotline to help out, since I'm by no means a professional at this. I will say this: If you do decide to end it all, think of everyone who'll miss you. Your family, friends, surely everyone on this site will mourn you. I don't know you too well and I'd be disheartened to hear that you've killed yourself. Suicide is a long term solution to a short term problem.

[Freewave]

^ He speaks the truth. Life is the only game in town. Pulling the plug means you're leaving nothing to ever get better. Are things consistently that bad? Def post in the hugging and venting thread (spam thread is not for this) and talk it out if that helps. But def seek professional help if you constantly feel bad and can't ever feel good or want to kill yourself.

[Facade]

> Suicide is a long term solution to a short term problem.

i keep hearing this stupid argument
19 years is short term problem? thats like 1/4th of my life if not more

[Nine Volt]

> Suicide is a long term solution to a short term problem.

i keep hearing this stupid argument
19 years is short term problem? thats like 1/4th of my life if not more

And what of that other 3/4? Even if you've had a shitty life so far just think of all the amazing things you'll be missing, all the opportunities and miracles you'd be throwing away, and of all the people who would dearly miss you. Family, friends, acquaintances, us here at MLR, to name a few.

But if you're seriously considering ending your life, Facade, call this number:
1-800-273-8255

It's the suicide hotline. Call it.

[Facade]

I'm going to at least wait until I'm 21 (1 year and 8 months) before i decide

i doubt this community will still be around then so don't worry about me

[itroitnyah]

Dude, good job waiting until you're 21. It will give you time to think. Life is the longest thing you'll ever do, after all. Oh, and it's pretty awful to think that the point in life is to succeed. Whatever the hell the point of life is, is beyond me. We developed from tiny cells millions and millions of years ago to the point where we are now, so there probably isn't a point in life. Come to think of it, there isn't a point in anything we do. What's the point of building super cars and houses and rocket ships and computers? What's the point of learning?What the hell is the point of clothing and societies morals? What's the point of living in civilized society? Everything can be questioned by "what's the point of that". Go ahead. Think up of something in your head. Picknicks. What is the point of having a picknick. What's the point of enjoying a beautiful day or having fun? What is the point of anything in this whole god damn universe?

I've been having a pretty shitty day myself, and I have no idea why.

[Pickslide1992]

It may be a cliche piece of advice, but it wouldn't be used all the time if it didn't work. Take it from someone who got very close to ending his own life on more than one occasion, it takes a lot of guts to follow through. You have to consider everyone who even cares about you a tiny bit. Think of your parents who are horrified to see their offspring laying lifeless on the floor or dangling from his ceiling; their horrified expressions giving way to sadness. Think of all of us here who hear that you've done it, and how many posts there'll be mourning you, wishing you decided to continue on instead of die. You show a lot of promise as a musician, I know it, and even if it's just a hobby, you have people who like what you do and will sorely miss you should you decide to throw it all away.

Please, for the love of God, get help if you're serious. Nothing is worth killing yourself over.

[Facade]

You show a lot of promise as a musician

biggest joke on the entire forum

everything ive ever submitted gets turned down as crap or unoriginal

[Pickslide1992]

You show a lot of promise as a musician

biggest joke on the entire forum

everything ive ever submitted gets turned down as crap or unoriginal

Not true, you're very good from what I've heard. Rejection is a part of life, my friend. You know how many times an author gets his manuscript rejected from a publisher or a screenwriter gets his script rejected by a studio? A LOT more often than when they get accepted. The key here is to be persistent and not cow down when things look rough. Think of other artists who get turned down by either major labels or in our case, sites like EqD. There's hundreds of other people like you and me trying to get our names out there, but again, you're going to get rejected more times than you're accepted, but you know what? That makes the acceptance all the more sweeter. If you got accepted all the time, how would you feel?

[Facade]

id feel like someone wants/likes me for the first time in my life

[ClaviSound]

What you are talking about is Nihilism: Life has no intrinsic meaning or value. What is the point of doing anything? Indeed, how can one feel meaningful when eventually everything, from your own life to the life of the universe, ends?

Well, I like to think everyone has something to fight with. Not just substance, but essence. The tempo that gives birth to the universe, the bridge that leads to its death. You can use it to cry at the despair that announces the end, or with the ultimate thumb to the nose, scoff at it. There's more to this existence than construction and destruction.

There is art.

What we create is more than just an extension of ourselves, it's a dream. A dream that can touch others into touching others into touching yet more. A dream that turns into poetry which turns into sound which turns into warmth, feeling, spirit, the will to live. A dream that, if it can change one person, just one, it can change the world.

Somewhere in art, deep within its infinite crevasses and impenetrable cells that contain the nuclei of creation, something is born, something that was not there to begin with, but was conjured through something more integral to ourselves as human beings than anything else.

It is something that can be found in all of us. It asks for us to listen, to share, and to live, even if we can't explain more than what drove us to create in the first place.

What begins and ends the world? What makes us exist, even when there isn't an audience?

Music.

A song.

Sure, maybe life may ultimately mean nothing. But is it not the greatest testament to humans that to become humans, they took nothing and made something out of it?

But if you're seriously considering ending your life, Facade, call this number:
1-800-273-8255

It's the suicide hotline. Call it.

We can talk to you if you need to talk, but at the end of the day, I don't think anyone here is a professional.

[Magnitude Zero]

You show a lot of promise as a musician

biggest joke on the entire forum

everything ive ever submitted gets turned down as crap or unoriginal

If I can make a suggestion?

I'm sure you've been told many times to stop worrying what other people think, and to make music solely for yourself and for music's sake, and I'm sure you realize that's easier said than done. One thing you can try to get yourself to that point is to make something silly. Just make some really stupid joke song for the hell of it, completely disregarding everything you know about making quality music, and have as much fun as possible with it. Even if it's only funny to you, if no one gets it or no one finds it amusing in the slightest. Just give it a go and have some fun!

As artists, we have such a great opportunity to make stupid shit. A lot of artists don't seem to realize how amazing that is, or how lucky we are. We can make jokes that no one else can.

I dunno. That's what I do when I'm feeling down (especially about my music), anyway.

[Pickslide1992]

id feel like someone wants/likes me for the first time in my life

First time in your life? You mean to tell me you've never had friends to talk to you? Parents who loved you unconditionally because you were born from their seed? A community of musicians who all make tunes about technicolor horses? If I didn't care about you, I wouldn't be typing any of this or attempt to help you, even if I don't know much about you personally. From what I see, you're a great guy who indeed deserves plenty of friends and listeners. I mean everything word that I'm typing, but like I said, you first have to crawl before you walk. If at first you don't succeed, keep trying until you do. Trust me, it'll make success all the more enjoyable.

[JSynth]

whats the point? we live just to die? all i hear is this shit about do something for people etc etc why? we all die thats it the point of life is to die am i wrong to want that to happen sooner?

Suicide is the most selfish thing you can do. You may not think so, but it really is. We are all in the battle of life together, and it sucks sometimes. But having challenges in life is a sorry excuse for ending it. You see, ending your life doesn't just affect you, it affects everyone around you. Close friends and family are going to be the ones you hurt the most.


Now I need to get back to a class that I am hopelessly failing. Don't carry on like this, or so help me I will start telling you about the love of Jesus.

[Pickslide1992]

whats the point? we live just to die? all i hear is this shit about do something for people etc etc why? we all die thats it the point of life is to die am i wrong to want that to happen sooner?

Suicide is the most selfish thing you can do. You may not think so, but it really is. We are all in the battle of life together, and it sucks sometimes. But having challenges in life is a sorry excuse for ending it. You see, ending your life doesn't just affect you, it affects everyone around you. Close friends and family are going to be the ones you hurt the most.


Now I need to get back to a class that I am hopelessly failing. Don't carry on like this, or so help me I will start telling you about the love of Jesus.

I was going to say this, but suicide isn't so much selfish as it is an escape from pain that's too much to bear. Take it from someone who almost did it himself. I can see why it's seen as selfish, but the people who contemplate suicide are in pain, maybe not physical, but mental and psychological.

Think of it this way: Suicide isn't something you decide to do. It's something that comes from a series of defeats and feelings of not being wanted. Your emotions and mental illness takes control and you can't think straight. Technically it could be considered a selfish act, but again, it's an illness trying to kill you as you try and fight back. You feel as though you have no other choice.