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Re: Rainbow & Rooted: One Last Shot

Postby Ocular » 18 Jun 2013 06:37

Chez - Your song is really good. I wasn't expecting that. The reversed lead is just fine. The beginning part needs a bit more in the high end and a bit cut off of the low end. If you have too much low end on your pluck it'll clash with the sub bass. The drums sound great. Overall, definitely a song I'd listen to.

GCKrastin - I'd like to give you feedback, but if you take the sub out before you upload there's a chance that our feedback won't sound right when you implement it. I do like it, though.

Now here's an entirely different song that I'm gonna stick with. Scratch out that techstep idea.

http://soundcloud.com/theocularinvisible/bliss-wip-r-r-ols
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Re: Rainbow & Rooted: One Last Shot

Postby Alycs » 18 Jun 2013 07:00

Alycs wrote:https://dl.dropbox.com/s/5vw5038eic1cyml/Bang%20Bang%20Bang.mp3

I promise the review like every track in about two hours


plz guys...

i'll review the two tracks above shortly
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Re: Rainbow & Rooted: One Last Shot

Postby OrionMelody » 18 Jun 2013 08:02

Can someone tell me how much time is left for submission? I may have actually started on a song that I can finish.. yay!
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There isn't much to it, as I just started working on it.
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Re: Rainbow & Rooted: One Last Shot

Postby LoreRD » 18 Jun 2013 09:20

They extended the deadline by 5 days or so, so around the 28th of June
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Re: Rainbow & Rooted: One Last Shot

Postby Belgerum » 18 Jun 2013 09:20

Belgerum wrote:Well, this thread looks to be much more productive than others I've seen. Might as well drop my WIP, ask for some much needed advice on it and such, (I've been trying to work on my mixing/mastering/sounding good)and give some other people feedback, despite being inferior to almost everypony here.

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DL for those who can't do direct:
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I hope you guys like 11/8 and 14/8 time.

If anyone else wants some feedback on their things, I'll be following this thread for a little while, so feel free to ask.


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Alycs wrote:https://dl.dropbox.com/s/5vw5038eic1cyml/Bang%20Bang%20Bang.mp3

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plz guys...


What the horse. I'll do it.

First of all, I don't even know what you're trying to do with that introductory 45 seconds. It might be musical in a way, but it isn't what people are looking for in music that's to be taken seriously. I certainly was surprised by it, and not necessarily positively. What's more, it doesn't seem to fit with the theme of the track much at all, once the actual meat of the track comes in. I don't know if you want to shorten the intro, or replace it, or just get rid of it altogether, or do whatever you want to do, but as things are, I don't really like it, and I'm not sure others will either.

As for the track itself, most of the low end I'm getting is from the kick, but I'm not getting much actual bass material coming through my speakers. I might add a bit more to that part of the spectrum. Other than that, I'm notgetting a lot of bad stuff from it.
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Re: Rainbow & Rooted: One Last Shot

Postby GCKrastin » 18 Jun 2013 09:57

Gigantic wall of text incoming, I hope you guys don't mind.

Belgerum wrote:Might as well drop my WIP, ask for some much needed advice on it and such, (I've been trying to work on my mixing/mastering/sounding good)and give some other people feedback, despite being inferior to almost everypony here.

Direct:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/45k ... HBmqKx6osg

I hope you guys like 11/8 and 14/8 time.


Everything I'm about to say just comes from a generic "this sounds good, this sounds bad" standpoint, as this is not at all my style of music. Some of the stuff I say might be characteristics of the genre, idk.
The guitar at the beginning comes in a little bit abruptly, perhaps have some sort of reverse reverb to transition it in.
The synths at 0:32 are very quiet and don't have much depth to them. I'm not entirely sure how you'd go about fixing it, but I think boosting the highs a little bit or maybe adding a chorus of some type would help.
The piano at 0:55 doesn't fit, and it seems panned to the right which bugs me a little bit. Perhaps have it move slowly from left to right, or something?
The hihats are panned to the left, which also bugs me. Something I generally do with drum and bass is to have two different hihats that alternate playing and one is panned left and the other is panned right, although I don't know if that would work for this style of music.
All in all, it has potential, but there are some things that could be improved.

Alycs wrote:https://www.dropbox.com/s/5vw5038eic1cyml/Bang%20Bang%20Bang.mp3

I promise the review like every track in about two hours


Still don't like the tempo change at the end, and the sub in the kick drum is panned to the right EDIT: I think the sub panned to the right is caused by my headphones, I've heard it on every song I've listened to in the last two hours and most of that was pro stuff that's all perfect and whatnot. Always center your sub, any sort of stereo separation in the sub makes it almost painful to listen to with headphones. Also, the kick at the beginning (0:54) seems off beat to me, but that might just be the sample. Make sure there's no silence at the beginning of the sample, and make sure your drum pattern is lined up with the lead pattern in the playlist.
The lead still has a weird volume pulsing thing at the start which throws me off a little bit.
The random samples at the beginning are cool, but they don't transition between each other very well. Put a little piece of radio noise (I believe FL Studio has a default sample somewhere containing radio noise, if you use FL) that flickers in volume a bit in between each sample, it'll make it sound more like a coherent mess rather than a messy mess.
Also, I agree with Belgerum's opinion on the intro in that it doesn't fit with the rest of the song. It's definitely a cool idea, (it reminds me of sci's Hurricane Dial from Balloon Party) I'm just not sure it really works in such a bouncy song.
All in all, better than the last wip, but still needs a little work.

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If it's dnb, I personally think it should be faster. I tapped the tempo and it seems like it's either 168 or 170, which is a bit slow for my tastes. All of the dnb I make is 175, although most of what I listen to is anywhere from 174 to 180. However, this is really more of a personal taste and less of a rule.
The melody is fantastic, if a bit repetitive.
The lead at the beginning should have less of that lowpass envelope when the drums kick in, it seems a little watered down (for lack of a better expression) and suppresses the energy that it would otherwise convey.
There needs to be more of a transition to the drums, perhaps a reversed crash cymbal, or a reversed kick drum, something to help the drums come in.
It's hard for me to tell if you've already done this, but make sure to EQ out everything below 100 Hz on your kick drum, otherwise the sub from the kick will mess with the sub from the bass. Another option would be to sidechain the kick with everything, but it kinda sounds like you've already done that.
There's not much of a buildup before the drums and bass come in, so it seems kind of abrupt and awkward. (Although this also was touched on with the lack of transition before the drums)
Very nice, but has some things that could be improved.


Anyways, (and no it's not a rejected entry just because it's on YouTube, I made it pretty much the day after One Last Shot was announced)
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Re: Rainbow & Rooted: One Last Shot

Postby Symphon » 18 Jun 2013 12:20

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Re: Rainbow & Rooted: One Last Shot

Postby Ocular » 18 Jun 2013 12:36

TheOcularInvisible wrote:Chez - Your song is really good. I wasn't expecting that. The reversed lead is just fine. The beginning part needs a bit more in the high end and a bit cut off of the low end. If you have too much low end on your pluck it'll clash with the sub bass. The drums sound great. Overall, definitely a song I'd listen to.

GCKrastin - I'd like to give you feedback, but if you take the sub out before you upload there's a chance that our feedback won't sound right when you implement it. I do like it, though.

Now here's an entirely different song that I'm gonna stick with. Scratch out that techstep idea.

http://soundcloud.com/theocularinvisible/bliss-wip-r-r-ols


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Re: Rainbow & Rooted: One Last Shot

Postby GCKrastin » 18 Jun 2013 12:50

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It's very repetitive, I'd add some more variation to the drums (maybe a couple of tom rolls or something?) at some points. Because it's so short it's kinda hard to give much criticism because it's just a small part of the song. The bell in the background is a teeny bit quiet, and I think the chord that plays with the bass should have that filter or something open up throughout the course of the clip to give more of a rising feeling up to the drop. Other than that, it's pretty good I'd say.
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Re: Rainbow & Rooted: One Last Shot

Postby MYCUTIEMARKISAGUN » 18 Jun 2013 13:14

i unno wtf i'm doing w/ this desert walker shit anymore, i should just submit swagcompo06 or something
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Re: Rainbow & Rooted: One Last Shot

Postby tofer95 » 18 Jun 2013 15:29

Hey I almost never use this site but when I heard about Rainbow and Rooted i thought it was a cool idea but I never finished the track for it :( but here's the track I ended up finishing. http://soundcloud.com/christofer95/overwhelmed
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Re: Rainbow & Rooted: One Last Shot

Postby Ocular » 18 Jun 2013 17:15

tofer95 wrote:Hey I almost never use this site but when I heard about Rainbow and Rooted i thought it was a cool idea but I never finished the track for it :( but here's the track I ended up finishing. http://soundcloud.com/christofer95/overwhelmed


I like it. It needs some sidechaining though. Also, get rid of the dimension expander.
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Re: Rainbow & Rooted: One Last Shot

Postby TheAnonymousColt » 18 Jun 2013 18:06

https://soundcloud.com/the-anonymous-colt/untitled-wip-rainbow-and


Can someone give me some criticism on my track? I haven't had the time to properly master it yet, but it should be enough for now.
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Re: Rainbow & Rooted: One Last Shot

Postby OrionMelody » 18 Jun 2013 20:25

TheAnonymousColt wrote: https://soundcloud.com/the-anonymous-colt/untitled-wip-rainbow-and


Can someone give me some criticism on my track? I haven't had the time to properly master it yet, but it should be enough for now.


You might add a stronger crash or downward sweep at 1:19? It sounds a bit empty, in my opinion. Also, that synth you have going on behind the drop could be turned up a bit. I think everything else is fine, though.
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Re: Rainbow & Rooted: One Last Shot

Postby Lyonize » 18 Jun 2013 22:19

Dang! Why didn't I see this earlier? I don't think I'v got time but I might as well try. While I'm at it, here's my R&R submission. Feedback would be appreciated a TON.

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Re: Rainbow & Rooted: One Last Shot

Postby OrionMelody » 18 Jun 2013 23:11

Lyonize wrote:Dang! Why didn't I see this earlier? I don't think I'v got time but I might as well try. While I'm at it, here's my R&R submission. Feedback would be appreciated a TON.



..O_O That. Was. AMAZING! I hope you can make something for the next album (I am not sure, but I think the deadline is the 28th?..) Now, there were a couple of things that I think could be fixed.
1. The snare need to be a little louder (not much, just a bit).
2. The song got a little repetitive.. you should have dropped the melody off at 4:03 and transitioned to the build up you had going at 0:46. After the build up, have the main drop play though to the end. (Does that make sense? I am sorry if it doesn't.)
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Re: Rainbow & Rooted: One Last Shot

Postby OrionMelody » 18 Jun 2013 23:16

https://soundcloud.com/awolfnamedorion/dreamer-r-r-one-last-shot-wip
This, if and when I finish, will be what I submit. I am fairly confident with my mixing, but I still want criticism. Thanks.
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Re: Rainbow & Rooted: One Last Shot

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Re: Rainbow & Rooted: One Last Shot

Postby MrBronyPlan » 19 Jun 2013 09:33


Is gonna be my entry for this One Last Shot thingy... well, the full thing anyways.
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Re: Rainbow & Rooted: One Last Shot

Postby Ocular » 19 Jun 2013 09:42

MrBronyPlan wrote:Is gonna be my entry for this One Last Shot thingy... well, the full thing anyways.

If you want feedback, you need to give it.

On a related note, I gave feedback but never received it. Here's an updated version of my song.

http://soundcloud.com/theocularinvisible/bliss-wip-2
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Re: Rainbow & Rooted: One Last Shot

Postby GCKrastin » 19 Jun 2013 10:37

TheOcularInvisible wrote:On a related note, I gave feedback but never received it. Here's an updated version of my song.

http://soundcloud.com/theocularinvisible/bliss-wip-2


That's actually really good. The drums come in a little to quickly for my tastes, perhaps have a bar or two with the drums highpassed or bandpassed, and have the filter open gradually? That's what I usually do for dubstep. I personally think you should change the melody of that bell thing a bit from 1:22 onward, to give it some more variety; I guess that's more of a personal taste though.
I don't hear any mixing problems, but from what i can hear there is a ton of sub in the kick, which could mess with the other sub if you don't remove it or sidechain it. (Although I'm not hearing any muddy stuff in the sub either)

Now can somebody please at least give me a teeny bit of criticism on my other track? :c

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Re: Rainbow & Rooted: One Last Shot

Postby TrueNorth » 19 Jun 2013 11:22

I wish I could find a band to play Working Man by Rush with me, but alas, no one has the time to learn a seven minute song.

So instead I made a dumb EDM track.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/765 ... heTrap.mp3

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Re: Rainbow & Rooted: One Last Shot

Postby MrBronyPlan » 19 Jun 2013 11:37

TheOcularInvisible wrote:
MrBronyPlan wrote:Is gonna be my entry for this One Last Shot thingy... well, the full thing anyways.

If you want feedback, you need to give it.

On a related note, I gave feedback but never received it. Here's an updated version of my song.

http://soundcloud.com/theocularinvisible/bliss-wip-2

I don't care for feedback, and my feedback is usually terrible, not terrible as in it's negative, I'm just bad at giving feedback. BUT, I'll give it a shot;


I like how to cut is low in the beginning, I like the attack of the kick, but I think you could adjust it a bit, and possibly highpass, bells are nice too, I could imagine a very small bit of delay in the bells, but not enough to give a real thing on about that. And that's pretty much it for me

See? My feedback is shit, yay
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Re: Rainbow & Rooted: One Last Shot

Postby Ocular » 19 Jun 2013 12:01

TrueNorth wrote:I wish I could find a band to play Working Man by Rush with me, but alas, no one has the time to learn a seven minute song.

Rush is my favorite band. I now love you.
They played Working Man when I went to see them on the Time Machine tour. It was epic.
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Re: Rainbow & Rooted: One Last Shot [13 Days Left]

Postby R-Y-S-E » 19 Jun 2013 14:18

Alycs wrote:[Thin Air]: Overall, I think you should go for this as your song. The intro needs a little work. Again, the lazerish sound clashes harmonically with the organ. Also, the fade out effect seems to panned left, and that’s a little disorienting. I like the drums on this one better to, but again, it lacks depth. Try boosting the kick’s lows and the snare’s highs. Just focus on getting your spectrum filled out to give more depth to the song, and this will be great.
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