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Re: Official Dish Cushion Thread

Postby Mr. Bigglesworth » 13 Feb 2016 10:54

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Re: Official Dish Cushion Thread

Postby topitmunkeydog » 13 Feb 2016 23:11

hey what do u cats thing of this thing i made?? its the first piece ive made that i actually sort of like but at the same time i neither know what to think nor where it is going.
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Re: Official Dish Cushion Thread

Postby Acsii » 13 Feb 2016 23:54

In all due seriousness about the S6, I've used one and it is the most flawed piece of tech ever... yes it's good to mix on, but not so much when you need to restart it ever 30 minutes.
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Re: Official Dish Cushion Thread

Postby Bronies Are Cool » 14 Feb 2016 01:06

topitmunkeydog wrote:hey what do u cats thing of this thing i made?? its the first piece ive made that i actually sort of like but at the same time i neither know what to think nor where it is going.
https://soundcloud.com/topitmunkeydog/wip

Not sure how I feel about the drums.
I listened to it on my phone, but it felt like it needs to be mixed. The parts where you had the snare (or clap) sample being hit a bunch of time in succession was pretty loud and over bearing when ever it happens.
I liked the piano melodies the most.
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Re: Official Dish Cushion Thread

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Bronies Are Cool wrote:
topitmunkeydog wrote:hey what do u cats thing of this thing i made?? its the first piece ive made that i actually sort of like but at the same time i neither know what to think nor where it is going.
https://soundcloud.com/topitmunkeydog/wip

Not sure how I feel about the drums.
I listened to it on my phone, but it felt like it needs to be mixed. The parts where you had the snare (or clap) sample being hit a bunch of time in succession was pretty loud and over bearing when ever it happens.
I liked the piano melodies the most.

thank you for the feedback! yeah it sounds fine on my speakers, but on anything else it sounds so bad like im not having a fun time with mixing (mostly because idk how to do it)
also did you just have a problem with how loud the drums are, or do you recommend changing the pattern to? (a lot of the things were mistakes with the beat repeat that I didnt bother fixing lol)
also thanks!! instead of using ableton's piano setting which i HATEEEEEE i just recorded my real piano and sampled it bc im jazzy like that
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Re: Official Dish Cushion Thread

Postby Bronies Are Cool » 15 Feb 2016 08:51

topitmunkeydog wrote:
Bronies Are Cool wrote:
topitmunkeydog wrote:hey what do u cats thing of this thing i made?? its the first piece ive made that i actually sort of like but at the same time i neither know what to think nor where it is going.
https://soundcloud.com/topitmunkeydog/wip

Not sure how I feel about the drums.
I listened to it on my phone, but it felt like it needs to be mixed. The parts where you had the snare (or clap) sample being hit a bunch of time in succession was pretty loud and over bearing when ever it happens.
I liked the piano melodies the most.

thank you for the feedback! yeah it sounds fine on my speakers, but on anything else it sounds so bad like im not having a fun time with mixing (mostly because idk how to do it)
also did you just have a problem with how loud the drums are, or do you recommend changing the pattern to? (a lot of the things were mistakes with the beat repeat that I didnt bother fixing lol)
also thanks!! instead of using ableton's piano setting which i HATEEEEEE i just recorded my real piano and sampled it bc im jazzy like that

Personally, I would change the pattern, but that's because I have a kind of different style of music.
Maybe try a house style of music? With a 4by4 drum pattern and see what kinds of variations you can make with that? Idk
Just mess around with the drums. Typically, a good drum pattern is one that is so good, it's kind of overlooked in the song. In most cases, the drums are not the focus of the song, so try to make the drums less of the focus and more of a tool to help progress the song and carry it along.

When it comes to mixing, your likely going to wanna use limiters.
Put a limiter on literally every instrument/sample. And then also an equalizer on everything too. Cut frequencies that overlap a lot. (Highs should be in the high region, not in the bass region. Let the bass do its thing.)
Not sure what you're using, but if its fly studio, I can definitely help out more than with another program.
I could throw together a tutorial on how to mix "for beginners"
Not that im fantastic at it myself, but I can at least give you a bit of help to improve on it.
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Re: Official Dish Cushion Thread

Postby topitmunkeydog » 15 Feb 2016 15:17

Bronies Are Cool wrote:Personally, I would change the pattern, but that's because I have a kind of different style of music.
Maybe try a house style of music? With a 4by4 drum pattern and see what kinds of variations you can make with that? Idk
Just mess around with the drums. Typically, a good drum pattern is one that is so good, it's kind of overlooked in the song. In most cases, the drums are not the focus of the song, so try to make the drums less of the focus and more of a tool to help progress the song and carry it along.

When it comes to mixing, your likely going to wanna use limiters.
Put a limiter on literally every instrument/sample. And then also an equalizer on everything too. Cut frequencies that overlap a lot. (Highs should be in the high region, not in the bass region. Let the bass do its thing.)
Not sure what you're using, but if its fly studio, I can definitely help out more than with another program.
I could throw together a tutorial on how to mix "for beginners"
Not that im fantastic at it myself, but I can at least give you a bit of help to improve on it.


thank u for all this feedback its a godsend!
yeah idk about the drum pattern. I'll try a house style of drums, but I probably won't like it because I don't really like that kind of music. When I made this the things I was listening to mostly were BATHS, Mister Lies, and Nujabes (im sure you can hear the stuff i stole from these folks haha like mister lies does all that side chainy stuff and nujabes sampled like jazz pianists a lot it seems but i played my own)
But I really like that piece of advice about not noticing the drums! For the drums I was going for something a little like Purity Ring or, I'm ashamed to say, Yung Lean (its awful ik) idk something less conventional.
Also thanks for the advice on limiters; I didn't know about those!! BTW, im using Ableton live.
anyway thank u so much pal!
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Re: Official Dish Cushion Thread

Postby LFP » 16 Feb 2016 03:34

When it comes to mixing, your likely going to wanna use limiters.
Put a limiter on literally every instrument/sample. And then also an equalizer on everything too. Cut frequencies that overlap a lot. (Highs should be in the high region, not in the bass region. Let the bass do its thing.)

You definitely do not want to use a limiter for everything, lower the volume and use a compressor instead, and you don't even want to use that for everything.
Personally I really only ever use a limiter on my master and I often make do without it ^^
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Re: Official Dish Cushion Thread

Postby Bronies Are Cool » 16 Feb 2016 14:34

LFP wrote:
When it comes to mixing, your likely going to wanna use limiters.
Put a limiter on literally every instrument/sample. And then also an equalizer on everything too. Cut frequencies that overlap a lot. (Highs should be in the high region, not in the bass region. Let the bass do its thing.)

You definitely do not want to use a limiter for everything, lower the volume and use a compressor instead, and you don't even want to use that for everything.
Personally I really only ever use a limiter on my master and I often make do without it ^^

Oh God yes.
Compressor.
I was thinking of compressors wham I typed that, but I said limiter for some reason.
Sorry for that mislead.
I used to use limiters exclusively until I found out how much I liked compressors better and how much better they actually are.

Emphasis on using COMPRESSORS!!!!!!!11!1!!




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Re: Official Dish Cushion Thread

Postby LFP » 17 Feb 2016 04:45

Bronies Are Cool wrote:
LFP wrote:
When it comes to mixing, your likely going to wanna use limiters.
Put a limiter on literally every instrument/sample. And then also an equalizer on everything too. Cut frequencies that overlap a lot. (Highs should be in the high region, not in the bass region. Let the bass do its thing.)

You definitely do not want to use a limiter for everything, lower the volume and use a compressor instead, and you don't even want to use that for everything.
Personally I really only ever use a limiter on my master and I often make do without it ^^

Oh God yes.
Compressor.
I was thinking of compressors wham I typed that, but I said limiter for some reason.
Sorry for that mislead.
I used to use limiters exclusively until I found out how much I liked compressors better and how much better they actually are.

Emphasis on using COMPRESSORS!!!!!!!11!1!!

Just don't overdo the compression!
I'll usually have a compressor on Vocals, drums and everything acoustic (guitar piano etc) but I very rarely use them on synths since there's almost no need (everything the compressor does can be fixed in the synth itself) unless I want to have more of that nice compression distortion compact sound.


So, I'm thinking of changing my artist name to:
Lucid Memories

Sounds good
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Re: Official Dish Cushion Thread

Postby Acsii » 17 Feb 2016 06:26

With mixing you should only apply Compression, eq and others if it's needed. Not just straight away put a comp and EQ on everything.
Also start with a rough level mix, then stereo imaging, and then any corrective or creative effects. With compression make sure to match the volume, as our ears tend to think louder sounds better, so make sure to adjust the output gain/make-up gain on the comp to the same as the dry signal. And if you're using vocals don't be scared to do a little parallel compression.
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Re: Official Dish Cushion Thread

Postby Bronies Are Cool » 17 Feb 2016 08:00

Speaking of compression: anyone know of any good tutorials or videos talks about compression and mixing in action? Most videos I have seen are done by n00bZ and generally aren't super helpful beyond getting that first step into the concept.
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Re: Official Dish Cushion Thread

Postby Mr. Bigglesworth » 17 Feb 2016 10:44

Pro audio files on YouTube are pretty good in my experience. They always demo on commercial jobs they're doing and they're reasonably easy to follow
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Re: Official Dish Cushion Thread

Postby Bronies Are Cool » 17 Feb 2016 18:27

Update about becoming a tv star:
The Producer has liked everything about my company so far. He has liked the stories, our site, and etc. so, they escalated us to the next step and are going to be having a skype call to see how camera ready we are. I won't be included in the skype call unfortunately, but that's because the more interesting people of the company will be on the call.
However, I will be cool enough to have a little bit of assistance in setting up skype to allow the call since nobody has skype at my work. So, yay?
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Re: Official Dish Cushion Thread

Postby Acsii » 18 Feb 2016 03:41

Bronies Are Cool wrote:Speaking of compression: anyone know of any good tutorials or videos talks about compression and mixing in action? Most videos I have seen are done by n00bZ and generally aren't super helpful beyond getting that first step into the concept.

I'll let you know my approach, Slow attack, Fast Release, set threshold, Set Ratio, I generally do 4:1 on vox because I'm so used to use an 1176 but, once I have the ratio set I'll then adjust the Attack and Release until I like the sound of it's effect, then I'll adjust the makeup gain, from there I'll turn it on and off multiple times at multiple points of the song to make sure I like the sound of it. Also I mostly do EQ before comping, just because EQ can make some harmonic frequency stand out and comps can bring them under control a bit.

Mr. Bigglesworth wrote:Pro audio files on YouTube are pretty good in my experience. They always demo on commercial jobs they're doing and they're reasonably easy to follow

+1 for Pro Audio Files.
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Re: Official Dish Cushion Thread

Postby Ricky Denzel » 18 Feb 2016 14:03

Acsii wrote:
Bronies Are Cool wrote:Speaking of compression: anyone know of any good tutorials or videos talks about compression and mixing in action? Most videos I have seen are done by n00bZ and generally aren't super helpful beyond getting that first step into the concept.

I'll let you know my approach, Slow attack, Fast Release, set threshold, Set Ratio, I generally do 4:1 on vox because I'm so used to use an 1176 but, once I have the ratio set I'll then adjust the Attack and Release until I like the sound of it's effect, then I'll adjust the makeup gain, from there I'll turn it on and off multiple times at multiple points of the song to make sure I like the sound of it. Also I mostly do EQ before comping, just because EQ can make some harmonic frequency stand out and comps can bring them under control a bit.

Mr. Bigglesworth wrote:Pro audio files on YouTube are pretty good in my experience. They always demo on commercial jobs they're doing and they're reasonably easy to follow

+1 for Pro Audio Files.

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Re: Official Dish Cushion Thread

Postby Bronies Are Cool » 18 Feb 2016 15:38

Um. Well then goodbye?????
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Re: Official Dish Cushion Thread

Postby Acsii » 18 Feb 2016 19:44

Ricky Denzel wrote:
Acsii wrote:
Bronies Are Cool wrote:Speaking of compression: anyone know of any good tutorials or videos talks about compression and mixing in action? Most videos I have seen are done by n00bZ and generally aren't super helpful beyond getting that first step into the concept.

I'll let you know my approach, Slow attack, Fast Release, set threshold, Set Ratio, I generally do 4:1 on vox because I'm so used to use an 1176 but, once I have the ratio set I'll then adjust the Attack and Release until I like the sound of it's effect, then I'll adjust the makeup gain, from there I'll turn it on and off multiple times at multiple points of the song to make sure I like the sound of it. Also I mostly do EQ before comping, just because EQ can make some harmonic frequency stand out and comps can bring them under control a bit.

Mr. Bigglesworth wrote:Pro audio files on YouTube are pretty good in my experience. They always demo on commercial jobs they're doing and they're reasonably easy to follow

+1 for Pro Audio Files.

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Re: Official Dish Cushion Thread

Postby Mr. Bigglesworth » 18 Feb 2016 19:55

Ricky Denzel wrote:
Acsii wrote:
Bronies Are Cool wrote:Speaking of compression: anyone know of any good tutorials or videos talks about compression and mixing in action? Most videos I have seen are done by n00bZ and generally aren't super helpful beyond getting that first step into the concept.

I'll let you know my approach, Slow attack, Fast Release, set threshold, Set Ratio, I generally do 4:1 on vox because I'm so used to use an 1176 but, once I have the ratio set I'll then adjust the Attack and Release until I like the sound of it's effect, then I'll adjust the makeup gain, from there I'll turn it on and off multiple times at multiple points of the song to make sure I like the sound of it. Also I mostly do EQ before comping, just because EQ can make some harmonic frequency stand out and comps can bring them under control a bit.

Mr. Bigglesworth wrote:Pro audio files on YouTube are pretty good in my experience. They always demo on commercial jobs they're doing and they're reasonably easy to follow

+1 for Pro Audio Files.

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Re: Official Dish Cushion Thread

Postby Bronies Are Cool » 19 Feb 2016 11:13

I had a pretty nice conversation to an older gentleman in his 40s about music. The last he really knew about electronic music, everything was still called techno or house. I was able to show him some modern house, different kinds of house, and help him distinguish between different types of electronic music like house, trap, dubstep, drum and bass, etc.
it was pretty cool because I was not expecting him to be so interested in knowing that and listening. I was also able to talk about being a bedroom producer and how it's still something that takes talent, even if it's a different talent than playing an instrument live.
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Re: Official Dish Cushion Thread

Postby Bronies Are Cool » 19 Feb 2016 14:39

Speaking of music, I had lunch at a restaurant that had a jukebox you can control with an app.
So, naturally, I decided it would be funny to play the same song over and over again.
So, after about 40 minutes of listening to Clocks by Coldplay, people started to notice. The workers thought the jukebox was broke.
They had the ability to manually over ride the song and play whatever they wanted. So, they switched the song. And I had the ability to interrupt, so I interrupted their song after about 10 seconds and switched it back.
Then, I let their song play for a while to let them think they won, and then I striked again. Their reactions were glorious. Just getting loud and frustrated and it was genuinely funny. They weren't actually mad, but they were sure as anything to be really confused.
Eventually, they just switched to a regular radio.
But, after an hour of my reign, I had to leave. I left a tip for them of almost 100% of my meal, so that should make up for it. I also left a note saying that I hope they liked my "playlist"
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Postby Acsii » 19 Feb 2016 23:43

That is absolutely glorious I love doing stuff like that when I'm at the radio station, I can hijack the playback to the studio from my desk.
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Re: Official Dish Cushion Thread

Postby LFP » 21 Feb 2016 15:29

Nooo don't leave me jokabluuuu
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Re: Official Dish Cushion Thread

Postby Acsii » 21 Feb 2016 20:15

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It's me. Yay hi I guess. Ok bye.

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Postby Bronies Are Cool » 22 Feb 2016 15:45

Well. I'm officially addicted to playing the Pokemon Card game as well now. After having learned the official rules, I started playing and it's incredibly fun.
And also free. You can download it for free on your computer or iPad. So yea, no need to invest real money in it to see if you like it.
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