Freewave's Genre of The Day Exploration

This isn't a forum for specifically talking about production or posting your own music, but it is a place to talk about the music you are listening to.

Freewave's Genre of The Day Exploration

Postby Freewave » 11 Jan 2013 09:18

I'm not sure how many people have checked out my Rate Your Music account as TheScientist which i've linked in my signature but in case you haven't figured it out yet, I love lists. Listing allows you to gather and pass on information you've gathered and make the elaborate world of music a little more bearable to explore and understand.

I created the RYM Ultimate Box Set project as the idea that you could put together a cd compilation of the best tracks from the essential artists for just about each and every genre (ok 5 cd's for somethin glike Progressive Rock) and at the same time explore how that genre came to be chonologically and hopefully tell a better story of what a genre is then many of the profiles in Wikipedia.

Why genres? Well genres aren't just something you adopt as a style at some point (well they are NOW) but more importantly they were a new movement and a new musical scene that came to pass. While you're living in an age where there's not much going on for new genres (except a few like Trap Music, Vaporwave, Chillwave, Moombahtonm, and of course Brony Music) at earlier times there were a lot more genres coming into being. So genres really represent musical history and how music often branches off from one genre to the next as it develops like a tree.

So I'm going to try to post a genre each day that I'm on RYM, talk about what makes then unique and how sound wise what defines them, and a few youtube examples of each. I hope that this gets you excited about musical exploration and diversifying the styles that you might try in your own music. This won't exactly be a technique thread but it's going to be pretty close to one.
Last edited by Freewave on 11 Jan 2013 18:31, edited 2 times in total.
Links for my music: YouTube, Bandcamp, and Tumblr
Check out the Brony Music Directory and FimMusic. A portal for all pony music
Image
Support the 20+ Musician Maressey Project currently underway.
User avatar
Freewave
 
Posts: 3193
Joined: 29 Nov 2011 12:33
Location: Denver
OS: Windows 7
Primary: Fl Studio 10
Cutie Mark: X$X

Re: Freewave's Genre of The Day Exploration

Postby itroitnyah » 11 Jan 2013 09:25

Hm, alright... This sounds interesting. Especially for somebody like me who can't really discern between genres very well, lol.
Image Image I am no longer an active member. here
My studio: [List of equipment]
User avatar
itroitnyah
 
Posts: 2482
Joined: 02 Mar 2012 20:27
OS: Windows 7
Primary: FL Studio 11
Cutie Mark: Blank flank

Re: Freewave's Genre of The Day Exploration

Postby ghelded_kultz » 11 Jan 2013 11:00

Freewave, I want you to know that I have admired your work (without knowing who you were) on the Ultimate Box Sets for at least as long, if not longer, than I have been a brony. They are a great way for someone who is really interested in genres and how they are divided to learn about them, especially since, as you mentioned, Wikipedia's genre profiles are only so helpful.

Onto the topic at hand. This seems like a great idea. As someone who likes genres and doesn't really get why some people get so up in arms about it I really hope that this project will change some opinions and even get people trying new things.

PS- Your article on genres is really good.
"Wherever we are, what we hear is mostly noise. When we ignore it, it disturbs us. When we listen to it, we find it fascinating." - John Cage

Trolls and makers of bad music, thats us!
http://soundcloud.com/ghelded-kultz/tracks
User avatar
ghelded_kultz
 
Posts: 426
Joined: 03 Aug 2012 08:36
Location: Stallion Dimas

Re: Freewave's Genre of The Day Exploration

Postby Freewave » 11 Jan 2013 11:08

We can start anywhere but let's start with some Electronic from a decade ago. If anyone wants to request a particular genre I'd be glad to do them next rather then randomly just reach into my bag.

Electroclash

The term "Electroclash" first rose to media attention in 2001, when the Electroclash festival was held in New York. This music was a reaction against current electronic music, in favor of an artistic underground movement. These bands took inspiration from first generation Synth Pop, indie fashion, and modern art. The artists that initially received the most media attention were Peaches, Ladytron, Felix da Housecat, Fischerspooner, and Miss Kittin & The Hacker. The genre had a peak of interest between 2001 and 2004, when many media outlets were focusing on it (due to a lack of quality in traditional dance music of the time). Some media outlets heavily promoted the genre in the beginning. Due to the mass marketing of such a niche sound, their arose a backlash. The UK's Muzik magazine was a casualty after so heavily promoting it. The term, style, and artists quickly dispersed and into the subsequent Electro House, Electropop, and New Rave movements which arguably gained more popularity.

Here's the full in depth List

Here's a youtube playlist i just made for it.

But here's 3 quick highlights (artist and tracks):

Fischerspooner - "Emerge"

"Fischer and Spooner met in an experimental video class at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago. The two collaborated on performance art pieces but eventually lost touch until years later when both had moved to New York. By this time Warren had begun a career as a commercial director out of frustration with the stagnating alternative music scene, and Casey had been struggling to make his name in experimental theater.

Between 1999 and 2000 they wrote a spate of cool, electronic tracks, like the anthemic hit-to-be "Emerge," to accompany a new experimental performance idea. Spooner was the natural front man and Fischer the behind-the-scenes musical wizard in their own burgeoning Oz. With the help of a network of dancers, singers, costumers and other artist friends the performances grew over a year into controversial "pop" spectaculars.

With the songs available for free through their website, an underground release on Germany's Gigolo Records and their hyper-stylish performances leaving packed houses awestruck, Fischerspooner spearheaded the swelling international electroclash movement and quickly created a cult of fans around the world. They traveled the show to Europe where intense press attention and a deal with club pioneers Ministry of Sound drove "Emerge" into the UK Top 40 and garnered a worldwide million+ dollar record deal with Capitol Records."~Gigolo Records



Felix da Housecat - "Silver Screen (Shower Scene) (Vocals by Miss Kittin)"

"Like Chicks on Speed or Ladytron, Felix raids the non-kitsch and irony-free memory banks of the genuine early-'80s here - as opposed to the nostalgia-industry caricature of comically coiffeured boys stabbing at synthesizers. 'Kittenz And Thee Glitz' taps into the chilly aesthetic of new wave and proto-techno, the historic crossroads when disco became synth-pop. But this is not some coldly conceptual retro-homage, more like a natural manifestation of techno's constant traffic between past and future, pop and underground, Europe and America.

Half a dozen guests share the journey. Current single 'Silver Screen (Shower Scene)' and its sister tune 'Madame Hollywood' feature DJ Hell signing Miss Kittin on vocals, deconstructing the trappings of fame in brutally dispassionate, icily erotic, deadpan Nico-esque tones over thrusting synths and scything 4/4 beats.

'Kittenz And Thee Glitz' is not a techno album, hardly even a dance record, only partially an '80s homage, and not quite pure pop either. But it is also all of these things in one, plus some kind of warped comment on celebrity culture."~NME



Ladytron - Seventeen

"The less profane Ladytron aren’t entirely electroclash (they dabble with dance music as much as they do Krauty, sometimes noisy rock), but their ventures onto the dancefloor have brought credibility to the genre. As a band, Ladytron are the rare example of an act to be implicated with electroclash that takes pride in songwriting craft. “Playgirl ” has an indelible melody, punctuated by (again) lyrics that make fun of the scene in general. “Why are you dancing when you could be alone?” asks the group’s Helena Marnie, though the answer isn’t so obvious when the steam-thick groove of the song is considered. Seventeen" is Ladytron’s other classic contribution to the genre (though it should be noted that both of their albums, 604 and light&magic are exemplary pop records, regardless of how much or little they have to do with electroclash as a whole). The song, which laments, “They only want you when you’re 17/When you’re 21, you’re no fun,” could be about Traci Lords but is probably just about modeling in general. Still, the mere hint at underage porno seems a lot naughtier than the brash attempts to be provocative that Peaches and her lovertits have churned out thus far."~stylus



So Electroclash opened up a pandora's box of influences that really captured bits of the past (the earliest of synthpop, italo disco, early techno, industrial) but also continued to influence the 2000's way past it's demise into movements like Electro, Nu-Rave, and even some of the sound and style in Electropop artists such as Lady Gaga.
Last edited by Freewave on 11 Jan 2013 11:16, edited 2 times in total.
Links for my music: YouTube, Bandcamp, and Tumblr
Check out the Brony Music Directory and FimMusic. A portal for all pony music
Image
Support the 20+ Musician Maressey Project currently underway.
User avatar
Freewave
 
Posts: 3193
Joined: 29 Nov 2011 12:33
Location: Denver
OS: Windows 7
Primary: Fl Studio 10
Cutie Mark: X$X

Re: Freewave's Genre of The Day Exploration

Postby Freewave » 11 Jan 2013 11:12

ghelded_kultz wrote:Freewave, I want you to know that I have admired your work (without knowing who you were) on the Ultimate Box Sets for at least as long, if not longer, than I have been a brony. They are a great way for someone who is really interested in genres and how they are divided to learn about them, especially since, as you mentioned, Wikipedia's genre profiles are only so helpful.

Onto the topic at hand. This seems like a great idea. As someone who likes genres and doesn't really get why some people get so up in arms about it I really hope that this project will change some opinions and even get people trying new things.

PS- Your article on genres is really good.


I am so utterly flattered and thrilled by your comment. Thanks so much. :D I've tried to leave a trail of what I've explored and done on the internet but as always not a lot of people know about it or see it. Thanks!
Links for my music: YouTube, Bandcamp, and Tumblr
Check out the Brony Music Directory and FimMusic. A portal for all pony music
Image
Support the 20+ Musician Maressey Project currently underway.
User avatar
Freewave
 
Posts: 3193
Joined: 29 Nov 2011 12:33
Location: Denver
OS: Windows 7
Primary: Fl Studio 10
Cutie Mark: X$X

Re: Freewave's Genre of The Day Exploration

Postby topitmunkeydog » 11 Jan 2013 17:13

Not sure how specific this is gonna be but you should do something about Krautrock!
topitmunkeydog
 
Posts: 621
Joined: 02 Jan 2013 13:43
Location: the people's republic of freak
OS: macaroni
Primary: (trying to learn) ableton
Cutie Mark: yes

Re: Freewave's Genre of The Day Exploration

Postby Nine Volt » 11 Jan 2013 17:26

Do chillwave or darkwave or whatever-wave.
User avatar
Nine Volt
 
Posts: 3066
Joined: 23 Aug 2012 06:50

Re: Freewave's Genre of The Day Exploration

Postby the4thImpulse » 11 Jan 2013 17:32

I think you should do some less 'obscure' genres to start as so many people have problems understanding whats 'dubstep' and how it differs from drum and bass (or the modern equivelent), electro (and now complextro). I think its more relevant over those genres I have never heard of like 'chillwave', 'krautrock' and 'electroclash'.

Of course a mix between popular genres and lesser known ones would be good. I'm not saying you need to stay mainstream as I enjoy hearing these genres I've never heard before.
User avatar
the4thImpulse
 
Posts: 1578
Joined: 22 Feb 2012 17:10
Location: Kelowna, B.C.
Primary: Ableton Live 8
Cutie Mark: Blank flank

Re: Freewave's Genre of The Day Exploration

Postby Freewave » 11 Jan 2013 17:51

I definitely will Nine Volt. I'll definitely consider your suggestions 4th impulse. It will be a fun bumpy ride.

topitmunkeydog wrote:Not sure how specific this is gonna be but you should do something about Krautrock!


Krautrock? You got it! It's awesome!

Krautrock

part of the RYM Ultimate Box Set

"Krautrock is a term coined by the British music press, and is generally used to refer to the progressive and experimental groups of late 1960s and early 1970s Germany.

These groups combined a variety of influences and styles, including British and American psychedelic rock groups, the free jazz of Ornette Coleman and Albert Ayler, experimental classical composers (most notably Karlheinz Stockhausen as well as the minimalists Terry Riley and Steve Reich). The desire to eschew conventional song structure and melody also led to some groups developing a more mechanical sound and feel for their compositions, which also often made use of early synthesizers and other electronic instrumentation.

Although they all differed in their approach to their music, the underlying link between all the Krautrock groups was the attempt to take the rhythm ("motorik" was the name given to the steady 4/4 beat used by many groups) and energy of American rock music and disassociate it as much as possible from its Rhythm & Blues roots, instead drawing inspiration from other sources."

Here is the SIX Disc Box Set
Full List

A couple highlights from the set:

Can - "Halleluhwah" from Tago Mago (1971) 18:28

"Tago Mago, the essential Can album and the first to feature Damo Suzuki. At the heart of the album is "Halleluwah," an 18 minute epic with groovy bass, free jazz sections, mumbling vocals and interspersed screaming. This is the essential Can album." q



NEU! "Hallogallo" from NEU! (1972) 10:07

"While little known and relatively unheralded during its brief existence, the Krautrock duo Neu! cast a large shadow over later generations of musicians and served as a major influence on artists as diverse as David Bowie, Sonic Youth, Pere Ubu, Julian Cope, and Stereolab. On "Hallogallo", which opens the disc, the listener encounters a timeless rock & roll sound world. The driving guitar playing one chord in different cadences and rhythmic patters, the four-snare to the floor pulse with a high hat and bass drum for ballast, and a bassline that is used more for keeping the drummer on time than as a rhythm instrument in its own right. These are draped in Rother's liquidy, cascading single note drones and runs, so even as the tune's momentum propels the listener into a movement oriented robotic dance, the guitar's lyrical economy brings an aesthetic beauty into the mix that opens the space up from inside. "



Kraftwerk "Tanzmuzik" from Ralf & Florian (1973) 6:34

"Kraftwerk went ahead and named their new album after their two remaining original members. Like the first two albums, Ralf and Florian still has not seen official re-release, for all that one can practically taste Kraftwerk's leap into the beyond on it. Given that this was the last album before the most famous lineup was formed and Autobahn was released, it's appropriate to listen to Ralf and Florian as a harbinger for the future. "Tanzmusik," captures the sheer sense of beauty often present in the band's glory days, complete with what sounds like celebratory handclaps and bells."



Faust - "Krautrock" from Faust IV (1973) 11:47

"The album's disparate threads don't quite jell into something larger (as in the past), but there's still much to recommend it. The nearly 12-minute electro-acoustic opener "Krautrock" is sometimes viewed as a comment on Faust's droning, long-winded contemporaries, albeit one that would lose its point by following the same conventions. Aside from "Krautrock," there is a trend toward shorter track lengths and more vocals, but there are still some unpredictably sudden shifts in the instrumental pieces, even though it only occasionally feels like an idea is being interrupted at random."



Manuel Göttsching - "Echo Waves" from Inventions for Electric Guitar (1975) 17:45

"This album is sometimes credited to Ash Ra Tempel, but the music was composed and performed by Manuel Göttsching alone. All sounds were created with guitar, but Göttsching's use of echo, delay, and assorted treatments give these pieces the flavor of sequenced synthesizer music, occasionally reminiscent of Tangerine Dream's work from the period. The opening "Echo Waves" is a trance-inducing space guitar masterpiece, with repeating rhythm figures and gradual phase shifts creating a warped sense of time. The first 14 minutes of the track consist of short, subtly changing melodic phrases, until Göttsching questionably chooses to close with a searing, acid-fried guitar solo."



So very experimental period of time in Germany and mostly by college kids from key music schools part of rebirthing process for the country. Not a lot of similarity from musician to musician BUT it's the shared approach of breaking new ground that they were all doing at once that made it a movement. A lot of the first synths were used in this music and sometimes in a rock setting. It likely would have been underlooked to a degree if it was Julian Cope who published a book on the scene afterwards and gave it it's name.

Some more reading if interested
the_definitive_rym_krautrock_list__compiled_in_february_2008
julian_copes_krautrock_top_50
http://www.allmusicguide.com/ <-always a good historical guide for individual write-ups and album reviews.

Here's the key hr long documentary from BBC. Really goes into the social dynamics that helped create Kraurock in reaction to Germany recovering and rebuilding from post-war WWII.

Last edited by Freewave on 11 Jan 2013 18:34, edited 1 time in total.
Links for my music: YouTube, Bandcamp, and Tumblr
Check out the Brony Music Directory and FimMusic. A portal for all pony music
Image
Support the 20+ Musician Maressey Project currently underway.
User avatar
Freewave
 
Posts: 3193
Joined: 29 Nov 2011 12:33
Location: Denver
OS: Windows 7
Primary: Fl Studio 10
Cutie Mark: X$X

Re: Freewave's Genre of The Day Exploration

Postby topitmunkeydog » 11 Jan 2013 18:14

That was awesome! I haven't heard much Krautrock but it has got the best name out of any genre so this is very helpful :P Thank u
I don't know much about genres because they seem so specific sometimes that there is one for every band... But I found this and thought you might find it funny. http://www.kmag.co.uk/editorial/feature ... enres.html

Also, could you help me identify what sort of genre this song is? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiLjTIeosBk
topitmunkeydog
 
Posts: 621
Joined: 02 Jan 2013 13:43
Location: the people's republic of freak
OS: macaroni
Primary: (trying to learn) ableton
Cutie Mark: yes

Re: Freewave's Genre of The Day Exploration

Postby Freewave » 11 Jan 2013 18:52

topitmunkeydog wrote:That was awesome! I haven't heard much Krautrock but it has got the best name out of any genre so this is very helpful :P Thank u
I don't know much about genres because they seem so specific sometimes that there is one for every band... But I found this and thought you might find it funny. http://www.kmag.co.uk/editorial/feature ... enres.html

Also, could you help me identify what sort of genre this song is? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiLjTIeosBk


Funny thing is almost any genre that sticks around for any period of time has to be popular to someone and made by quite a few people. So many people will generalize a genre based on the name ("that must be stupid") but that doesn't mean that it's not important to the people who like. Brony Music is something that could be seen stupid by others (if they even noticed it) Brony music is one of the most interesting genres because it's a scene that's not based around any musical genre or commonality but because it's a reaction TO and about a single show. That's a very NEW concept when it comes to scenes and genres. It's also not geographically born unlike the days before when a scene WAS local generally to a single country leading the way. But yeah Donk looks pretty dumb. :lol:

anyway

That clip you has a bit of a definite retro punk/rock feel. What it really sounds like is the proto-punk of the Stooges to be honest


Some might also call that Garage Rock Revival now but Garage Rock guys HATE that term as it isn't really much to do with sounding like what Garage Rock originally sounded like. But hey blame the journalists cause it stuck. But very RAW sounding (often energetic) rock.

Links for my music: YouTube, Bandcamp, and Tumblr
Check out the Brony Music Directory and FimMusic. A portal for all pony music
Image
Support the 20+ Musician Maressey Project currently underway.
User avatar
Freewave
 
Posts: 3193
Joined: 29 Nov 2011 12:33
Location: Denver
OS: Windows 7
Primary: Fl Studio 10
Cutie Mark: X$X

Re: Freewave's Genre of The Day Exploration

Postby XXDarkShadow79XX » 11 Jan 2013 23:55

Do trap! Do trap! Pweeze!!!!!!?!?!

Or hard dance, hardcore techno, or skullstep/breakcore.
User avatar
XXDarkShadow79XX
 
Posts: 940
Joined: 13 Mar 2012 04:49
OS: Windows
Primary: FL

Re: Freewave's Genre of The Day Exploration

Postby ghelded_kultz » 12 Jan 2013 07:06

Nine Volt wrote:Do chillwave or darkwave or whatever-wave.


I second Chillwave, or maybe Witch House. Those are some recent genres that I have liked quite a bit from what I've heard but I still don't know all that much about them and Wikipedia's articles aren't all that great for either one.

I'd love to see a darkwave one too, but I'd like to point out that it's more closely related to New Wave and Gothic Rock than chillwave (though I don't know for sure if that's what you're implying).

Oh, for a more well known genre, Industrial. It's a word that fairly important in modern music yet seems to mean something different to everyone who hears it. Or Techno. That's a word that gets thrown around a whole bunch (not so much here) without people really knowing what it means (this includes me).

Also for a really obscure genre Zeuhl would be great too.

Anyway, keep up the great work
"Wherever we are, what we hear is mostly noise. When we ignore it, it disturbs us. When we listen to it, we find it fascinating." - John Cage

Trolls and makers of bad music, thats us!
http://soundcloud.com/ghelded-kultz/tracks
User avatar
ghelded_kultz
 
Posts: 426
Joined: 03 Aug 2012 08:36
Location: Stallion Dimas

Re: Freewave's Genre of The Day Exploration

Postby Freewave » 12 Jan 2013 08:17

XXDarkShadow79XX wrote:Do trap! Do trap! Pweeze!!!!!!?!?!

Or hard dance, hardcore techno, or skullstep/breakcore.


Ah Trap is one of those that passed me by. That's not saying I can't try to spend some time, read some articles, and try to do a set for that but it hasn't happened yet.

I can get a Hardcore /Belgium Techno list, Drill & Bass/Breakcore, and a Digital Hardcore later too. :D

XXDarkShadow79XX wrote:I second Chillwave, or maybe Witch House. Those are some recent genres that I have liked quite a bit from what I've heard but I still don't know all that much about them and Wikipedia's articles aren't all that great for either one.

I'd love to see a darkwave one too, but I'd like to point out that it's more closely related to New Wave and Gothic Rock than chillwave (though I don't know for sure if that's what you're implying).

Oh, for a more well known genre, Industrial.

Ok i will get a Chillwave set up today (one of my favorite recent genres) and will doa Witch House one too. No problem at all doing Zeuhl, Darkwave, and Industrial (1st wave and then some latter ebm and electro-industrial pehaps). I'm one of those that used to throw around Industrial loosely and see it is as a big parent genre and not something very specific and closely defined but I've certainly met people who do not see it the same way (kinda like how some people moan about all the changes and development in Dubstep (ME, lol) vs the natural evolution of it from its original style).
Links for my music: YouTube, Bandcamp, and Tumblr
Check out the Brony Music Directory and FimMusic. A portal for all pony music
Image
Support the 20+ Musician Maressey Project currently underway.
User avatar
Freewave
 
Posts: 3193
Joined: 29 Nov 2011 12:33
Location: Denver
OS: Windows 7
Primary: Fl Studio 10
Cutie Mark: X$X

Re: Freewave's Genre of The Day Exploration

Postby Freewave » 12 Jan 2013 08:41

Chillwave

Chillwave (initially known as Glo-Fi) for all intents is a subgenre of Hypnagogic Pop in taking a more direct capture of 80's pop and synthpop by capturing not a current polished sound but a hazier and more lo-fi approach, yet still being upbeat eternal Summer music. In many way Chillwave is a more direct retelling of Keenan's hypnagogic pop article but without the drone, ambient, and psychedelic elements in bands he pointed to and more of the warm memories of lost youth and worshiping of 80's pop culture through viewing old vcr tapes that was mentioned throughout his article. Unlike most of the Hypnagogic Pop initially referenced, it was much less experimental, better production, much more popular, had 80's pop elements (often sampled), and is electronic in nature with synths and beats present. It was also a non-label appraoch to music that gathered much attention. While 2009 was the peak year for Chillwave a new split off of Gothic inspired Chillwave called Witch House has emerged in mid 2010 to become a new variation.

The Full List

Some Highlights:

Memory Cassette - "Surfin'" from Rewind While Sleeping (2008) [EP]

Do you love the ocean?" Memory Cassette asks us in the opening lines of "Surfin'", "Can you see the shore?" These aquatic musings appropriately describe Memory Cassette's sound. Listening to Rewind While Sleeping can be compared to sitting on the beach on a cloudy day, with no one else in sight, and letting the crashing of the waves lull you into a blissful trance. Beautiful, absorbing, and melancholy: Memory Cassette calls these areas of music home. If Rewind While Sleeping is a overcast day spent at the beach, The Hiss We Missed is a ride through the city at night with defenses abandoned, taking in the crisp night air, the mosaic-like-lights, and the atmosphere."jamoftheewitches

Before Memory Casette there was Weird Tapes and then came Memory Tapes next. The most prolific of the Chillwave artists?

While summer, surfing, and the shore are often the most referenced themes of Chillwave they are not specifically essential to the genre (and are in a ton of the themes of the many California based Hypnogogic Pop artists). In fact most of the artists are not located on the west coast but on the southern and east coast with the "mecca" of the movement being in South Carolina (Washed Out and Toro Y Moi being from there).



Washed Out - "Feel It All Around" from Life of Leisure (2009) [EP]

"The single by Washed Out is as good starting point to talk about chillwave as any. Immediately you’ll notice warm 80s synths, blue-eyed soul vocals heavily reverbed, and an electronic, almost hip hop beat. To an extent, this is what chill wave is all about: indie for the beach. The track is hypnotic, almost lazy in its bare bones simplicity, but that is where a lot of the strength of Washed Out comes from; not trying too hard and finding just the right balance of kitsch and nostalgia, both derivative and altogether new."~simple monkey

"More woozy, lo-fi bedroom dance pop from Columbia, South Carolina, courtesy of Ernest Greene, aka Washed Out. Bask in the warm, inviting glow of (possibly borrowed) nostalgia cast by the excellent "Feel it All Around," which somehow manages to feel both distant and fully engaging" gvsb



Toro Y Moi - "Blessa" (2009) [Single]"

When exploring Toro Y Moi's blogged world of reportage Polaroids, collages, and extraneous side-projects (house music producer Les Sins, remixing, for example) it's clear this South Carolinian artist/musician/creator is obsessed on capturing every nuance or spark of inspiration that ignites in his sun-baked mind. So then, expectedly, his lo-fi tunes are a varied assortment of ideas, meandering between funk bass slapped grooves and slowed-down synth pop. "Blessa" is the latter and feels much like a summer's slumber, with its natural instrumentation and swelling vocal patterns beautifully warping like a weak radio transmission." p4k n

"South Carolina’s Toro Y Moi takes the chillwave sound a little deeper, making more complex and varied compositions. Prowess as a producer is important to each of these artists, but Toro Y Moi in particular leans heavy on his abilities behind the boards. What’s really striking about “Blessa” is the turn away from 80s (at least on this song) and more towards Panda Bear’s “Person Pitch.”~simplemonkey



Neon Indian - "Dead Beat Summer" from Psychic Chasms (2009)

"Texas’ Neon Indian will most likely be chillwave’s pop star. SM’s favorite song of the past year “Deadbeat Summer”, recycles Todd Rundgren’s piano from “Izzat Love,” warps and distorts it, and recreates a 70s/80s sound totally its own. “Psychic Chasms,” Neon Indian’s debut album, is probably chillwave’s most definitive album and also one of its best. There is without a doubt a kind of homage to the theme songs of the cartoons and TV shows of the 80s, and almost a tongue in cheek day-glo cheesiness that is somehow beautiful. Through the kitsch, Alan Palomo reaches us in the recesses of our childhood memories and awakens the vividness of emotions the first time we experienced them. SM’s favorite tracks on this album besides “Deadbeat Summer,” include “6999 (I Don’t Know If You Know)” and “Local Joke.” The former is a straight up italo-disco song addressed to a nameless you, and the latter is almost an early 80′s glam rock tune."~simplemonkey



Chillwave was the last musical movement i really got excited about (well besides Brony Music OBVIOUSLY) and it was really an amazing thing to see to non-label solo artists putting out tracks and then getting on Letterman and touring a month later. But besides re-writing the rules on how the internet could buypass having to use music labels it was most importantly just blissfull, chill, and happy music that was both retro but also still felt pretty new at the time. Nothing like getting nostlagic for days of lying on the beach when you've always been land locked. :D
Links for my music: YouTube, Bandcamp, and Tumblr
Check out the Brony Music Directory and FimMusic. A portal for all pony music
Image
Support the 20+ Musician Maressey Project currently underway.
User avatar
Freewave
 
Posts: 3193
Joined: 29 Nov 2011 12:33
Location: Denver
OS: Windows 7
Primary: Fl Studio 10
Cutie Mark: X$X

Re: Freewave's Genre of The Day Exploration

Postby itroitnyah » 12 Jan 2013 21:43

Wow, this is really good. It's great to know more about genres that I know little about. I really liked the Krautrock one, it's a nice, chill, different genre. I like it. It also sounds like sauerkraut, lol
Image Image I am no longer an active member. here
My studio: [List of equipment]
User avatar
itroitnyah
 
Posts: 2482
Joined: 02 Mar 2012 20:27
OS: Windows 7
Primary: FL Studio 11
Cutie Mark: Blank flank

Re: Freewave's Genre of The Day Exploration

Postby ph00tbag » 15 Jan 2013 21:11

Do Suomisaundi.
Image
User avatar
ph00tbag
Global Moderator
 
Posts: 769
Joined: 06 May 2012 16:19
Location: Cary, NC
OS: Windows
Primary: FL Studio
Cutie Mark: Blank flank

Re: Freewave's Genre of The Day Exploration

Postby CDPP » 15 Jan 2013 23:53

Obligatory Electroswing and/or Dixieland request
User avatar
CDPP
 
Posts: 467
Joined: 17 Jun 2012 21:53

Re: Freewave's Genre of The Day Exploration

Postby Freewave » 17 Jan 2013 12:31

Ok let's do some original

Dubstep

This isn't one of my sets but i'm happy to get it up here. Went through a few revisions back in the day.

So here's where it's important to see how dubstep came to be, first off it evolved from UK Garage, specifically from 2-step. There were a few producers who were working on tracks that were getting very close to dubstep without quite reaching it. El-B, Horespower Prodcutiions, Zed Bias, etc...(Check out the comp Roots of for a great look back). Note the charcteristic of time are the tempo (140 bpm ish), the use of dub elements, sub-bass (not midrange wubs at the time), and a clap on the 3rd beat. That's where the dub and the step of the name really come into being. What changed in dubstep is both in how its characteristics changed and also by who was making the music. When it went from black people in the UK to white people in the US it went for geographical and social change in what you consider it now. There's also off-shoots such Purple Sound (such as the g-funk sound of Joker), Wonky (weird time signature), and Filthstep/Brostep (much more midrange and progressively louder and agressive).

Full List is Here
^track by track discussion of it's developement

Some Highlights

Kode9 + Daddi G - Sign of the Dub (2004) [Single]

HYP001. Hyperdub owner Kode9 had been involved with dubstep from ground zero (he was involved in the creation of Fat Larry's Skank), but this was his first solo release, and the first to showcase his particular idea of what dubstep is.

The use of vocalist Daddi G's (aka The Spaceape) slow, moody recitations, and the furthur slowing down of the rhythms to accomodate his sludge-slow rhyming was the first major change to the base dubstep sound, and it was on this (along with, although to a lesser extent, early Burial) that Hyperdub first established a reputation as the first place for 'progressive' dubstep.



Skream - Midnight Request Line (2005) [Single]

This was supposed to be the big crossover hit for dubstep, the one that would certify it as a genre and bring it widespread interest. Did it? Somewhat. I remember the NME giving an article to describing dubstep, and there were other acknowledgements of the genre like that, but most of the attention was already focusing not on Skream but (perhaps predictably) the more album-oriented Hyperdub artists. This lead to Burial starting to pick up hype and eventually would result in the success of Untrue - with Burial now the mainstream dubstep artist that many though Skream would be.



Digital Mystikz - Anti War Dub from Warrior Dubz (2006) [Compilation]

As well as the interest of the IDM labels Rephlex & Planet Mu, the other key part of dubstep's success was its appearance on Radio 1. The first person to feature it was, of course, John Peel - tracks by Distance, Plasticman and Digital Mystikz appeared on his final Festive 50 in 2004. But after him, the first person to give dubstep time on Radio 1 was the Breezeblock's Mary Anne Hobbs, in her January 2006 special, Dub Warz. That show eventually led to this compilation, the first of three (Evangeline followed in 2008 and then Wild Angels in 2009). It was a mix of dubstep, grime, and a Spor track for some reason, and replaced the Grime comps as the essential dubstep selection. One of the biggest highlights was this track, the Anti War Dub.

It is a quintessential dubstep tune, probably the best thing to come from the DMZ guys. I say quintessential, because it was one of the first tracks to come to mind for this set, but actually it's fairly unusual for dubstep; the drum rhythms sound more like garage than dubstep and sound quite loud and punchy in the mix. And, of course, it's a protest song, dub against war (vocalist Spen G sounds like he's trying to channel Bob Marley here), which is pretty singular in dubstep as far as I know.



Distance - Koncrete from Repurcussions (2008)

Distance had been involved in dubstep already for some time, but primarly as a DJ rather than a producer with only a couple of releases each year. It was only in 2007 that he set up his own label, Chestplate, and began releasing regularly, quickly developing an interesting take on dubstep. My Demons was quite good, but Repercussions was one of the best albums of 2008, and Koncrete the best track. A harsh, almost industrial take on dubstep, using the same heavy sound as a lot of club-based dubstep but with an atmosphere more akin to Burial et al.



Hopefully this clears up a bit what old timers mean when they talk about "real" dubstep. Again it's more of a giant umbrella parent genre in it's current form but BIG genres always change into many small subgneres (see house, drum & bass).
Links for my music: YouTube, Bandcamp, and Tumblr
Check out the Brony Music Directory and FimMusic. A portal for all pony music
Image
Support the 20+ Musician Maressey Project currently underway.
User avatar
Freewave
 
Posts: 3193
Joined: 29 Nov 2011 12:33
Location: Denver
OS: Windows 7
Primary: Fl Studio 10
Cutie Mark: X$X

Re: Freewave's Genre of The Day Exploration

Postby Freewave » 18 Jan 2013 18:58

I guess I'll do one more since I'll be on vacation for the next 3 days. Hopefully people are still digging these.

Hardcore /Belgium Techno

Hardcore Techno developed during the early 90's Rave scene. This sound devleloped mostly from Germany and Belgium (descendants from New Beat which developed in the late 80's) and only a few from the UK (which was more focused on its own UK Hardcore Breakbeat) . It was often known as Hardcore Techno, Euro, or Belgium Techno. Joey Beltram from the US (Brooklyn) is owed a huge impact to this music through his early work and his ties to Belgium's R&S label. These represent the most well known anthems of this sound although there were many more underground classics. As stated there was 4/4 Hardcore used in other countries besides Belgium techno but we gave that the primary focus it deserved.

Actual List

Some Highlights

Joey Beltram - Energy Flash(1990) [Single]

'Energy Flash' is another example (if indeed any more were needed) of the strength of the musical relationship between simplicity and effectiveness. Yet categorising such an impressive piece of techno as merely 'simple yet effective' does little to convey the sheer quality of the music on display. After all, 'Energy Flash' is a relentless sonic assault that hooks you tightly and reels you in for more time and time again. Its dark, moody, rumbling bassline is capably supported by some ear-splitting beats and wave after wave of pulsating effects. Furthermore, the crispness of the 'clapping' additions on the percussion applies the finishing touches to a pioneering piece of electronic music that sounds as impressive today as it must have done upon release some fifteen years ago."

"Oh, and of course there was a small but highly significant Stateside connection in the form of Joey Beltram who really should’ve been called Joey Belgium, considering all the epic stuff he put out on R&S. Recorded in New York, released in Belgium. Deep and otherwordly as you like, it’s really just pure techno, but it was, and remains, an integral part of the Euro story. No cheesy samples, but rather those trademark cries of ‘ecstasy, ecstasy’ carried along on a post-acid 303 riff. "~factmag




C.J. Bolland - "Horsepower" by Ravesignal III (1991) [EP]

markov_chains "Probably the best release by CJ Bolland. Horsepower is a true techno classic which has and will rock the floor on any and every occassion. Both mixes on this 12" are equally as good."

"The finest release from R&S in my opinion. Well ahead of its' time and sounds great through a high-end set up."~rollinmat

"Born in Yorkshire in 1971 but transplanted to Belgium when he was only three, CJ Bolland received an early education in dance music; his parents ran a club in Antwerp, and his mother DJed there. CJ Bolland's first production for R & S, the Project's "Do That Dance", jump-started his career. His 1992 "Ravesignal 3 EP" (specifically, the track "Horsepower") made Bolland one of the hottest names in the new global dance community."~discogs profile




Lords of Acid - "Let's Get High" Take Control (1991) [Single]

DJMK1"This was a huge tune back in 91, some of the finest dark analogue synth techno about at the time. "Lets Get High" is much more underground than the other tracks these guys were making and there normal fare is represented by the flip "Take Control" which got a realease all of its own later. Bill Cosby's vocal stab used in this track "Turn on the sweat machine" is classic!"

Besides authoring half of New Beat, these guys quickly evolved to become the biggest name in Belgium techno. Big emphasis on drugs and sex which worked as designed. Again LOA crew went under a variety of guises and had many anthems. See Channel X, Digital Orgasm, M.N.O., and Praga Khan for many hits or just get the Techno Mancer to get most of them in one shot.




Apotheosis - O Fortuna (1992) [Single]

richardfloor "The famous of o fortuna track by apotheosis..maybe one of my favorites of all times and lot of people love it also..it's so popular all over the world..we all know it was banned ...deleted out of the market because of the illegal use sample of the classical opera music carmina burana originally writen and produced by carl off.. This o fortuna track is just a piece of art . Back in 1991 when i first heard it i was so impress of how smart techno house music can be ..this track is just amazing and is also a collectors item since is totally out of print and hard to find this days!!"

"The history of the record is as follows. The "O Fortuna" is a part of classical composer Carl Orff's "Carmina Burana". Composers Samoy & Rigaux had an almost immediate succes in the clubscene with this record. They decided to release their version on CD. When the CD-version came out the heirs of Carl Orff banned this version and sued. All the CD's and record sales had to be stopped and whitdrawn from the stores...Thus making it one of the most sought-after records at this time.(The CD version is even harder to find.)"~moroder



Again: "In Belgium we had all the influences," says R&S label owner Renaat Vandepapeliere. "We had new beat, which was slowed-down industrial music. Cabaret Voltaire and Throbbing Gristle were very big in Belgium. Detroit techno and acid house came in and everything got mixed up together."

What happened in the evolution next? Happy Hardcore, Digital Hardcore, and eventually Speedcore.

Anyway hope you are enjoying these sets. I'll pick these back up again next week if there's still interest.
Links for my music: YouTube, Bandcamp, and Tumblr
Check out the Brony Music Directory and FimMusic. A portal for all pony music
Image
Support the 20+ Musician Maressey Project currently underway.
User avatar
Freewave
 
Posts: 3193
Joined: 29 Nov 2011 12:33
Location: Denver
OS: Windows 7
Primary: Fl Studio 10
Cutie Mark: X$X

Re: Freewave's Genre of The Day Exploration

Postby itroitnyah » 18 Jan 2013 19:29

Oh yeah, I'm still liking these, definitely. It's fun to learn about the history of our favorite genres.
Image Image I am no longer an active member. here
My studio: [List of equipment]
User avatar
itroitnyah
 
Posts: 2482
Joined: 02 Mar 2012 20:27
OS: Windows 7
Primary: FL Studio 11
Cutie Mark: Blank flank

Re: Freewave's Genre of The Day Exploration

Postby ghelded_kultz » 19 Jan 2013 05:33

Yes, please continue Genre of the Day. It's good for us to be exposed to more music.
"Wherever we are, what we hear is mostly noise. When we ignore it, it disturbs us. When we listen to it, we find it fascinating." - John Cage

Trolls and makers of bad music, thats us!
http://soundcloud.com/ghelded-kultz/tracks
User avatar
ghelded_kultz
 
Posts: 426
Joined: 03 Aug 2012 08:36
Location: Stallion Dimas

Re: Freewave's Genre of The Day Exploration

Postby Icky » 19 Jan 2013 05:40

A genre that'd be fun for me to see, would be neurofunk. It's a pretty underground genre (although artists like spor and noisia did popularize it a bit) but has had a lot of influence on modern dubstep and other sound design heavy EDM genres.

keep these up, they're great!
Icky
 
Posts: 272
Joined: 30 Jun 2011 09:23

Re: Freewave's Genre of The Day Exploration

Postby ghelded_kultz » 19 Jan 2013 09:15

I want to see a genre that is at least for the most part non-electronic, all of the ones so far have been at least partly Electronic.

-Soft D. String DeHooves
"Wherever we are, what we hear is mostly noise. When we ignore it, it disturbs us. When we listen to it, we find it fascinating." - John Cage

Trolls and makers of bad music, thats us!
http://soundcloud.com/ghelded-kultz/tracks
User avatar
ghelded_kultz
 
Posts: 426
Joined: 03 Aug 2012 08:36
Location: Stallion Dimas

Re: Freewave's Genre of The Day Exploration

Postby topitmunkeydog » 19 Jan 2013 10:25

Well Krautrock isn't (all) electronic... But other than that, I agree. :)

Ooh, how about Shoe Gazer? I've been interested in that for a while but I don't know any bands besides Kyte.
Or do J-Pop!!!
topitmunkeydog
 
Posts: 621
Joined: 02 Jan 2013 13:43
Location: the people's republic of freak
OS: macaroni
Primary: (trying to learn) ableton
Cutie Mark: yes

Next

Return to Music Discussion



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests

cron