Toast Beard Compo General

[Freewave]

and the logs were over-written.
simulcast

logs don't get overwritten, this is not skype; either your client doesn't log, or deletes it periodically, or idk.
also, sync-listen.

when i say "logs" i mean what's viewable on the flash connected IRC. at a certain point if you try to scroll back you'll go back as far as you can which may not be that far (i think about 20-30 min worth) but you'll miss out on what's been said prior.

[sci]

yep, I always post logs~

this one was another long compo, too. 3 hours.

here's what you missed:
sounds: http://toastbeard.comli.com/pony/a/ZIQ21/
words: http://pastebin.com/x5WrJpqh

next round set: http://toastbeard.comli.com/pony/a/ZIQ22/
I am implying that this could be a style emulation

PLUS you have a new song to remix.
this should be fun :3

[F3nning]

ZIQ22's Theme.

I saw Style Emulation, stuck with it, and never looked back. So much gusta.

[Solarsail]

Can something be done about spam soundcloud comments showing up on Toastbeard?

(The ones that say a generic copypasted comment and are tying to link you to their website or something.)

[Freewave]

yeah sci or anyone else modding should go through the page before the sync-listen and delete anything that's excessive. its looking a little out of hand here and there especially early in the week.

[jubian]

*bookmarked thread*

[sci]

adfgadfgadfh

here's what you missed:
sounds: http://toastbeard.comli.com/pony/a/ZIQ22/
words: http://pastebin.com/YQLj9JXv

next round: http://toastbeard.comli.com/pony/a/ZIQ23/index.php
the vaguely valentine-related theme!

ok, NOW:

I need to hear what happened on your browser with the HTML5 embeds.

from what I can tell: the songs load with the page, so there's no need to queue.
if you push the play button, you can't pause it (without holding it down?)
some of the songs are switched around

for me, the HTML5 songs would load but wouldn't play at all. Everything else was normal.

I'm pretty sure this can be fixed by just reducing the number of embeds on the page (ie, having multiple pages with 20 entries / page or something)
but for now, I want to know what you experienced

[Solarsail]

The HTML5 all loaded and played fine for me in Firefox, but the ZIQ22 page crashed the whole browser in Chrome.

[TheSunAndTheRainfall]

Firefox wouldn't even show the HTML5 songs, there were just big white rectancles in their place.

[bartekko]

Opera plays the songs when the player shows them paused and vice versa

[Icky]

It just crashes my chrome 50% of the time.

[Solarsail]

ZIQ23 is crashing Chrome even harder than ZIQ22.

[sci]

Opera plays the songs when the player shows them paused and vice versa

of all the troubles I've heard, this one isn't so bad. at least the player works, even if it looks funny~

ZIQ23 is crashing Chrome even harder than ZIQ22.

that...is quite disconcerting. There are far less entries, HTML5 or otherwise...and it's worse?
that implies that even making mulitple pages + 15 entries per page won't help. :\

[Solarsail]

It's not the HTML5 ones for me, I disabled Flash and ZIQ22/23 load fine.

[sci]

TOASTBEARD, PROVIDING THE SOUNDTRACK TO ADVENTURE since ZIQ23

here's what you missed:
sounds bootleg-page1: http://toastbeard.comli.com/pony/a/ZIQ23/p1.php
sounds bootleg-page2: http://toastbeard.comli.com/pony/a/ZIQ23/p2.php
words: http://pastebin.com/wh28rE2j

(or, all entries on a single page, but the multi-page thing seems to help!)

and as for next week's theme....no wait.

wait.



4.4 hours. that sync was 4.4 hours long.
that's absurd.

next round: http://toastbeard.comli.com/pony/a/ERS17/

here's what I've done:
>Episode Response only. no ZIQ theme
>one entry per person.
>sync is at the same time

next week, I'd like to either
1. only run ZIQ when there are no new episodes for that week, or
2. make ERS a 24-hour compo and keep running a weekly ZIQ, or
3. run both ERS+ZIQ in parallel, two entry limit, AND a 5 minute limit.

having two compos in a row seems like it'd be crazy, but a 5 minute limit seems like it might be negligable.
what say you?

aside: I have no idea when I'll properly implement pagination, since programming seems really unappealing in the scarce bit of free time I've been getting recently due to "oh god you actually have to do homework during the semester what is this". sorry about that.

[Aussie]

4.4 hours. that sync was 4.4 hours long.
that's absurd.

What can I say?

Daring Do is almost best pony.

Anyway, option 1 would mean there would be no ZIQs until season 2 ends in like, July, and I personally like ZIQ more than ERS. Option 2 might be okay, but the people who are all ambitious for their entries won't have enough time to make their ERS entry. I'm kinda liking option 3 the most, and placing a time limit on songs would definitely speed things up.

ps. holy shit i haven't posted on MLR in forever

[Solarsail]

Putting a message up saying 1 entry per person /unless you really have to/ would be good. I think people would understand the intent of that, but would allow someone like Aviators to put up two songs.

[Freewave]

Yeah while i'll miss the 2 track allowance it could be for the best or MAYBE only on ZIQ when there will be more entries. a 5 min track limit is something to shoot for but really is unfair to any club versions of tracks or prog but it may help steer people that way to more compact tracks. I was not too happy about the whole Tarby situation in terms of the shouting about it being off-topic (and it was) but really was disappointing to see that conflict for that entry. It would be nice for people to consider whether a track is on-topic (ontheme or even pony) or a troll entry (while often still fun) before entering it just to keep TB under control. Then again Dark Symphony wasn't that much of a pony track and yet was one of the best entries.

I do think since a lot of people can't hit every TB that they try to hit every other one so next week may actually be a lot smaller perhaps as people may be exhausted from this one. I missed the week before this one but it seemed every one brought their A game this week which is part of why it was just so large. Maybe continuous winners of TB should go on to an Brony Idol type competition at a higher level.

I will say the biggest issue (and no offense) is that the sync-listen itself has both tech problems (html 5 , too many entries on a page) and that whoever ran the tempo didn't go at quite the same speed of queueing and playing the tracks. There were several time i saw QUEUE and went to hit play and literally had to rewind 3 times before the chat went to play the track. If there's 60 tracks (and there was more than that) and the time spent between tracks goes up one minute that's an extra HOUR right there of waiting. I'm used to seeing QUEUE and then seeing PLAY 15 seconds later.

Anyways TB as always was amazing and just overwhelmed by amazing diverse tracks but a lot of things came to a head last night in terms of getting it all to fit and run smoothly. I don't normally catch the beginning but I couldn't make it through to the end this time and it must have been even harder on the east coast. Don't know if starting a bit earlier is even an option or could even help or if we just need to work out the kinks with what's already been recommended.

[natsukashi]

Something that pisses me off is that tb always is at non euro-friendly timezones. So if we're gonna split it or something I propose that we get some love for eurofags and put sync at managable times xoxo <3

[Random111223]

Something that pisses me off is that tb always is at non euro-friendly timezones. So if we're gonna split it or something I propose that we get some love for eurofags and put sync at managable times xoxo <3

This. Can't really be awake at 5am.

[natsukashi]

even 2 hours earlier would be immensely beneficial but 4 to 6 hours earlier would be the best :c

[bartekko]

Something that pisses me off is that tb always is at non euro-friendly timezones. So if we're gonna split it or something I propose that we get some love for eurofags and put sync at managable times xoxo <3

^

but that might split the synclisten between europe and america

[Ropony]

As for the technical problems everyone has been having with the site, I'm gonna have to propose that we drop soundcloud embeds entirely on these and just use the onsite embeds and dropbox from now on. In my experience last night, even with only like 30-40 entries on page, my computer still lagged a huge amount, this has been bothering me to the point that I went ahead and ordered some more RAM. Having more RAM may or may not fix my issues with the site, but i still have a couple friends that say that the site takes over 5 minutes to load for them and I'd like for them to be able to enjoy it as well. Also with soundcloud, we get the issues of the HTML5 embeds causing crashes on some peoples browsers, i think this has been limiting the number of people that are able to attend synchlistens and should be addressed soon.

Now, dropbox isn't perfect, it has it's issues that allow people to submit future entries, however i don't think this is anywhere near as big of an issue as the lag that soundcloud embeds cause. Perhaps we'll just have to trust people to respect the system with the dropbox embeds.

Also, one other possible site to look into for embeds could be this one over here.
http://eqbeats.org/

[natsukashi]

Something that pisses me off is that tb always is at non euro-friendly timezones. So if we're gonna split it or something I propose that we get some love for eurofags and put sync at managable times xoxo <3

^

but that might split the synclisten between europe and america

Yes, it's not something that I'm fond of, but it's better than having a sync that only is managable for americans and australians to attend without bucking up your sleeping rythm. >.>

[Solarsail]

I'm annoyed that Seth never links to where the songs he puts up are from (Toastbeard) and so many, many listeners and even some musicians have no idea this exists and it's where most of the music and artists they like came from. A lot of content never goes up on Youtube or EqD to get those thousands of listens they deserve.

So I'm going to link it in every TB-song-containing EqD music post, in the comments, from now on. Until Seth starts publicising MLR's existence.