Rainbow & Rooted: Four's Fall Down

[vladnuke]

All mah ponies met up at an arcade for Pinkie's B day and partied and flutters got on tekken and started wrecking pones and was eventually crowned champion of the arcade.

DJed by Rainbow Dash.

[Lying Pink]

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Sci tellin' it like it is

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Vladnuke also tellin' it like it is
Also I had been wondering what the aftermath of BP was like in comparison. Not sure how I feel about the fact that it had the same kind of atmosphere. Hm.

I'm kinda wondering (for anyone who even bothers checking this thread anymore) what was the concept, or theme around your song? Like, what's your songs story? What's it about, other than a rainbow flying horse?

This sounds like a good topic I'd be interested to hear these too
When I started writing mine it was for a different pony album -- at that point it was about a few ponies setting out on an adventure, but then a) I lost momentum on the track and b) the album fell through. Then I decided to do R&R and maybe that gave me different ideas thematically or whatever but I could finish the track. I kind of just imagined RD flying around on her own -- like, she's usually seen flying competitively with/against other people, but I can imagine her more chill side coming out when she's by herself and just doing whatever she wants to do, being fast then slow, seeing different parts of the environment from up in the sky, looking at clouds, having fun, whatever. And this was all taking place around the spires of canterlot and the song's ending is the sunset. Title comes from the old "red sky at night, shepherd's delight; red sky at morning, shepherd's warning" thing.

[TheAnonymousColt]

The amount of butt-torn about the album is too damn high! I just wanna fap to technicolor hoarzis!

Instead of arguing in a dead thread, here's my thoughts on the matter:

No one cares if you're complaining about the album



As far as rating the album:

7/10, some good songs, not as memorable as BP. Needs more wub-a-dub dub

[Nine Volt]

7/10, some good songs, not as memorable as BP. Needs more wub-a-dub dub

No one cares if you're complaining about the album

[StevenAD]

. . . I'm kinda wondering (for anyone who even bothers checking this thread anymore) what was the concept, or theme around your song? Like, what's your songs story? What's it about, other than a rainbow flying horse?

I thought about how RD wants to be a Wonderbolt, so she actively pursues it and it's all good, but what if she wasn't so confident? What if she were stuck in a daily routine and thought she couldn't make it, or wasn't good enough.

So basically I tried to write what I thought would encourage someone in that situation (god knows I've been there) to stop thinking they can't and just go for it. I wanted it to be like a farewell song, like goodbye to my old unhappy life and onto my new great one.

I don't really like explaining songs, though. A synopsis or summary is never as powerful as the actual material.

[Nexgen]

Got a tweet from our lead singer back in March, asking if we should submit to RnR. I said we could try, but didn't have high hopes. We ended up jamming a bit and Moose came up with the premise for S.UPER W.AIFU A.NIMATED G.IRLFRIEND (which we refer to as S.W.A.G.). 8-Beat wrote some lyrics for what we had, but it didn't flow well, and we needed to all come together on this. The lyrical baton was passed to me, and I finished up the lyrics. We finalized our idea on this punk rock tune and tested it out. With A Winter Moose producing, as well as playing guitar and bass, 8-Beat Pulsar on keyboard, Biscayne with the singing and myself with the rapping, we just made a track. And it worked. I approached Circuit about our song, and he said he found it hilarious. We discussed how to fix the mixing. And, after some miscommunication, we ended up over stressing and destroying our song with edits. Circuit however, had an extra copy, telling us he had it taken care of. Next thing I know it, I'm woken up by a text from 8-Beat saying we made the album. I had never been more proud. And that leads us to now, where the album and our song has been hated on by basically everyone. Literally, I've gotten nothing but hate for our song, with a few people informing me they liked it. I know it wasn't mixed to it's best, but cut us some slack. We're still kinda new to this. Not like all of us are musical fucking engineers like Lavender Harmony. But I digress. I got really discouraged after the hate, but Circuit reassured me that all was well, and Regardless of your opinions of the album, I'm fucking proud to be on Rainbow and Rooted, so suck one, niggas.

[Nine Volt]

R&R is supposed to be an album of high quality music. You're still new to this, as you said. If you've gotten nothing but hate for your song, well... Sorry to say it, but it's probably because of the quality.

[Lying Pink]

I enjoyed it. Wasn't my favourite song on the album but I enjoyed it.
I guess four things to bear in mind are:
1) Constructive criticism (though not unconstructive hateposts) will help you grow and develop in the long run, way more than praise will
2) People who disliked your track will probably be more inclined to comment than people who liked it or who thought it was okay
3) Anyone who doesn't get the joke of your track probably thought it was unironic and cringeworthy, and whatever gag you make, there'll be people who don't get it, or who get it but just don't find it funny
4) You put a lot of time and effort into this and it sounded like you had a lot of fun making it; you got something at the end which you were proud of and got some recognition for (to put things into perspective, you made it onto the album -- regardless of whatever criticisms you might get, that means that someone somewhere saw enough value in your song to put it on R&R), that you acknowledge was far from perfect, have accepted feedback on and will no doubt improve upon massively in your next track(s). You did well, you're proud, and you're prepared to do better next time. I can't think of a healthier way to look back on something you've made than that.

EDIT: I think you guys have your first groupie

[Nexgen]

R&R is supposed to be an album of high quality music. You're still new to this, as you said. If you've gotten nothing but hate for your song, well... Sorry to say it, but it's probably because of the quality.

Well, it was good enough to make your said "high quality" album. Am I not right?

[Nine Volt]

R&R is supposed to be an album of high quality music. You're still new to this, as you said. If you've gotten nothing but hate for your song, well... Sorry to say it, but it's probably because of the quality.

Well, it was good enough to make your said "high quality" album. Am I not right?

It's not my album. I haven't even listened to it.

And no, you might not be right. Hurricane Dial was on Balloon Party, remember.

[S.P.P]

Hurricane Dial is a good song. Just cause you don't like it doesn't make it otherwise.
One mans trash is another's treasure, bear that in mind.
This goes for every track on R&R too. Don't call a track out purely because you don't like it. :]

[Nine Volt]

Hurricane Dial is a good song. Just cause you don't like it doesn't make it otherwise.
One mans trash is another's treasure, bear that in mind.
This goes for every track on R&R too. Don't call a track out purely because you don't like it. :]

I haven't listened to Nexgen's track.

Hurricane Dial was not good in the 'high quality' sense. It got on because it was unique and interesting. I liked it, but it was not traditionally good.

[S.P.P]

Agreed. But the fact that it was good and the production didnt make it unlistenable stands testament that the tracks in R&R CAN'T BE THAT BAD. Now, imma leave this discussion now because I feel that everybody should be like "heh, that guy has a different opinion to me. I'll let him have it but I prefer mine", and I don't want to take that mentality away.

I'm just saiyan.

[Decmaster IX]

Imma just wait until this whole thing blows over. This is kinda getting out of hand.

I liked S.W.A.G.…

[Nine Volt]

Agreed. But the fact that it was good and the production didnt make it unlistenable stands testament that the tracks in R&R CAN'T BE THAT BAD. Now, imma leave this discussion now because I feel that everybody should be like "heh, that guy has a different opinion to me. I'll let him have it but I prefer mine", and I don't want to take that mentality away.

I'm just saiyan.

Sounds good.

Wait it was named S.W.A.G.? Seriously?

[Lying Pink]

Wait it was named S.W.A.G.? Seriously?

FOR GOD'S SAKE STOP

[Nine Volt]

Wait it was named S.W.A.G.? Seriously?

FOR GOD'S SAKE STOP

BUT WAIIIIIIIIIII

[Camsy]

Seriously guys, the music in this album wasn't that bad. The only thing that has truly ruined R&R for me is this thread. Everyone is being selfish and stuck-up, I joined the community because I though bronies were the opposite.

To those who made it in, congratulations. The judges thought your track was good enough to make it in which means at the very least someone likes your track. And a good number of people will quietly enjoy your work for a long time to come.

For those who didn't make it, I'm sorry. Lots of people didn't make it in. But instead of crying about it, why not seek out peoples criticism and advice and strive to keep making better music.

I joined this album because I love ponies and I love making music. To me, nothing else matters and that's why I couldn't care less that my track didn't make it.

It's not my album. I haven't even listened to it.

I'd suggest you stop arguing with people on the forum and sit down to actually listen to it.

[Nine Volt]

It's not my album. I haven't even listened to it.

I'd suggest you stop arguing with people on the forum and sit down to actually listen to it.

I'll pass, thanks.

[TranquilHooves]

Hurricane Dial is a good song. Just cause you don't like it doesn't make it otherwise.
One mans trash is another's treasure, bear that in mind.
This goes for every track on R&R too. Don't call a track out purely because you don't like it. :]

I haven't listened to Nexgen's track.

Hurricane Dial was not good in the 'high quality' sense. It got on because it was unique and interesting. I liked it, but it was not traditionally good.

nah, it was good.

[TheAnonymousColt]

It's like a ponycaust in here...

[Evdog]

Been reading through the last few pages of this thread. All I have to say in response is:

BP =/= R&R

If you measure R&R to the criteria of BP, you will be disappointed, solely because it's not BP. But it's not trying to be; never was. It's trying to be Rainbow and Rooted.

[Nexgen]

Been reading through the last few pages of this thread. All I have to say in response is:

BP =/= R&R

If you measure R&R to the criteria of BP, you will be disappointed, solely because it's not BP. But it's not trying to be; never was. It's trying to be Rainbow and Rooted.

Thank you, Evdog. Now make sweet love to me bby. <3

[PinkieGuy]

Now, what about you, whoever is reading this? whats your tracks story?

I really want to hear the stories behind your music, if you have one.

My tune started as an instrumental that I 99% finished in like 3 days straight. For months, I just didn't know what to do lyrically. Then whilst mucking around with reverbs, pitch shifting and autotuning, I got this really spacey effect on a different track. I straight away got the idea of the "We Float In Space, No Time Or Place, A Thousand Years Away" line, and that section was born.

I then spent another 2 months with no more lyrics, but knew the song was about the Crystal Empire episode. I even performed the song live at PonyCon Au without having written final lyrics (made them up on the day). What finally solidified the concept was re-watching the episodes themselves, and noticing the robotic way the Crystal ponies were walking. I loved the idea of the song being this clash between the impact and absence of emotion. My favourite lines in the whole thing were the last ones recorded:

We walk around mechanized,
not a spark in our glassy eyes.
Repeating, defeated and searching for our heart's completion:
Will you complete me?


To me, I think this is what life becomes to some people: Forever stuck in the same rut (Repeating), thinking they're worth nothing more than what they get (Defeated) but still hoping that somehow they'll break free (searching). Sadly, instead of investing in the things that last, they try and break free with temporary things, like new toys, which just leave them asking all over again: 'will you complete me?'

[Raddons]

lmfao this thread

I cared for a day about not getting on and then I woke up the next morning and I honestly don't care. It hasn't crossed my mind once, until I read this thread. I hope this thread gets locked because you all are being ridiculous. Sure, I have my opinions on the merits of mixing and all that, but at the end of the day, this is just people having fun making music. I'm not gonna shit on someone for that.

Just remember what you all are arguing about.