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Re: Community House Mix

Postby Sonic Breakbeat » 01 Nov 2012 00:53

I might be jumping in on this a little late (5 pages I didn't read at all), but I'm in. I need something to do that is more organized than my own projects. Besides, I like House.

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Re: Community House Mix

Postby K3WRO » 01 Nov 2012 01:07

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Re: Community House Mix

Postby DXsmiley » 01 Nov 2012 03:09

Don't worry colortwelve, I'm having the same problem. Everything I try turns out somewhere between techno and hardcore, and somewhere between bad and terrible.

Does anybody have any tips on how to get something to sound House-Like in Garageband or Logic?
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Re: Community House Mix

Postby ChromaticChaosPony » 01 Nov 2012 17:52

Ok. I decided what style I'm doing. Something like One Trick Pony (deadmau5, not Jackle App) or Sofi Needs a Ladder.

I know what I'm doing with the bass, and I can ditch any concept of chord based melody (and the plucks with them). My main focus for all of my tracks from now on is to make them sexy. Like some kind of a hipster version of deadmau5.
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Re: Community House Mix

Postby Pewter Robot » 01 Nov 2012 18:22

Would progressive house be accepted? Because I'm almost done with a prog house track, and I'd rather use that than start a new one. Don't worry, it has some influence from Mord Fustang/ Wofgang Gartner electro, so it isn't exactly generic.
I might go with the one I'm finishing up right now, or an older, already-finished project that I never really planned on releasing. Both are progressive house.
Is this an album, too, or just a mix? Because if it's an album, I'm definitely going with the older one.

Nine Volt wrote:I'd probably stay at 128 for the sake of the mix but yeah, as long as it is clearly part house it's fine.

The one I'm working on is at 128, and it's the best song I've done so far. But that's also why I'm not eager to put it in a compilation (as I was planing on making it a single and hiring my favorite graphic designer to do artwork to make it look awesome).

Nine Volt wrote:Upper limit should probably be 6-7 minutes.

Also, update for everyone:
You should submit two versions of your song: one with drums and one without.

That will be a problem, because I'm incapable of making a song shorter than 8 minutes.
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Re: Community House Mix

Postby Pewter Robot » 01 Nov 2012 20:40

Sonarch wrote:@Nine Volt: If you, for whatever reason, can't find an artist, that's also probably something you could get through EqD. Just send an email saying the album needs an artist to do the cover art, and your info so the artist can contact you. But I assume someone on here knows artists a little better than I do, so I doubt that'll be an issue.

On an unrelated note, I am going to have to work a bit harder if i'm going to get a track done by late December. Since I have never done a house song, and have little experience with house outside of brony songs, can you all suggest some artists/songs I can listen to so I can familiarize myself with the genre? Specifically, electro-house, as that's what my collab partner and I decided on.

Best electro house IMO is Mord Fustang. Listen to "The Electric Dream" and "Milky Way" for more melodic stuff. "Super Meat Freeze", "Super Fever", and "Lick the Rainbow" for more hard electro house.
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Re: Community House Mix

Postby Sonarch » 01 Nov 2012 21:23

Pewter Robot wrote:Best electro house IMO is Mord Fustang. Listen to "The Electric Dream" and "Milky Way" for more melodic stuff. "Super Meat Freeze", "Super Fever", and "Lick the Rainbow" for more hard electro house.

Oooh yes, I need to listen to more of that!
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Re: Community House Mix

Postby Sonarch » 04 Nov 2012 11:28

Alright, my collab partner has returned from the land of being away from internet access, so we're back on for the collab!
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Re: Community House Mix

Postby Matthew N. » 04 Nov 2012 11:31

Savant is my God of electro house.

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Re: Community House Mix

Postby ChromaticChaosPony » 04 Nov 2012 13:38

Well, I just discovered a shitload of new mixing techniques and common practices in the industry.

I'm going to start over on my track completely. I want my mix to sound almost as flawless as deadmau5's.

For one, I learned that -6db isn't enough headroom for accurate mixing. 45% of the people who actually know what they're doing say it should be -18db, but -20db is the actual industry standard. -18db or lower is a better reference mixing level because -18dBFS = 0VU. You need that level of headroom to get an accurate mix.

I also realized I was being a dumbass and putting compression before EQ on my effects chain. That means I fucked up my kick drum and bass by not cutting frequencies before leveling them out evenly with compression, and need to start from scratch.
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Re: Community House Mix

Postby Pewter Robot » 04 Nov 2012 13:51

ChromaticChaosPony wrote:Well, I just discovered a shitload of new mixing techniques and common practices in the industry.

I'm going to start over on my track completely. I want my mix to sound almost as flawless as deadmau5's.

For one, I learned that -6db isn't enough headroom for accurate mixing. 45% of the people who actually know what they're doing say it should be -18db, but -20db is the actual industry standard. -18db or lower is a better reference mixing level because -18dBFS = 0VU. You need that level of headroom to get an accurate mix.

I also realized I was being a dumbass and putting compression before EQ on my effects chain. That means I fucked up my kick drum and bass by not cutting frequencies before leveling them out evenly with compression, and need to start from scratch.

Or you could just go with what sounds good. That's what I do, and I've been told that I mix and master better than professionals. :P
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Re: Community House Mix

Postby Pewter Robot » 04 Nov 2012 15:07

Here's my submission, by the way:
http://soundcloud.com/pewter-robot/community-album-mix-sumbission
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Re: Community House Mix

Postby Nine Volt » 04 Nov 2012 16:14

No. That's not your submission.

1. It's too long.
2. Spend more time mixing and mastering.
3. Can't have your song without the 2 versions as well as an actual download link, submitted via PM or email to me.

If you're going to submit something then at least read the rules.

(I'm not trying to be a dick but please try harder)
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Re: Community House Mix

Postby ChromaticChaosPony » 04 Nov 2012 16:28

Pewter Robot wrote:Here's my submission, by the way:
http://soundcloud.com/pewter-robot/community-album-mix-sumbission
An old project that's been bumming around on my computer for a couple of months.
Not my best creation, but it's at least finished.


It sounds a little overcompressed. The kick and clap/snare don't stand out very well in the mix. I honestly can't tell if you were using a clap or a snare because of it. Either that or the levels are just off.

Also, many of the frequencies in the song are bleeding into one another. You should spent more time EQing the track.

The song is kinda repetitive and boring to listen to. I like progressive songs, but this doesn't seem to progress at a fast enough rate to keep the listener interested. Consider starting from a basic 4/4 kick pattern and then building your entire track upwards as the track progresses, or doing something like that.

Lastly, it sounds like you went overkill on the white noise. At 2:52 in the track, it just sounds terrible.

I thought that it was ok, but it could be a lot better. Nine Volt is right, this isn't your submission. Take the time to make it sound professional. There's plenty of time left to work on it.
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Re: Community House Mix

Postby Pewter Robot » 04 Nov 2012 16:56

Nine Volt wrote:No. That's not your submission.

1. It's too long.
2. Spend more time mixing and mastering.
3. Can't have your song without the 2 versions as well as an actual download link, submitted via PM or email to me.

If you're going to submit something then at least read the rules.

(I'm not trying to be a dick but please try harder)

Sorry. I forgot the rules on submissions.
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Re: Community House Mix

Postby Pewter Robot » 04 Nov 2012 17:13

ChromaticChaosPony wrote:
Pewter Robot wrote:Here's my submission, by the way:
http://soundcloud.com/pewter-robot/community-album-mix-sumbission
An old project that's been bumming around on my computer for a couple of months.
Not my best creation, but it's at least finished.


It sounds a little overcompressed. The kick and clap/snare don't stand out very well in the mix. I honestly can't tell if you were using a clap or a snare because of it. Either that or the levels are just off.

Also, many of the frequencies in the song are bleeding into one another. You should spent more time EQing the track.

The song is kinda repetitive and boring to listen to. I like progressive songs, but this doesn't seem to progress at a fast enough rate to keep the listener interested. Consider starting from a basic 4/4 kick pattern and then building your entire track upwards as the track progresses, or doing something like that.

Lastly, it sounds like you went overkill on the white noise. At 2:52 in the track, it just sounds terrible.

I thought that it was ok, but it could be a lot better. Nine Volt is right, this isn't your submission. Take the time to make it sound professional. There's plenty of time left to work on it.

Shit. I just realized that I didn't EQ anything in this track. It's been a while since I've opened the project... :P
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Re: Community House Mix

Postby Matthew N. » 04 Nov 2012 17:47

Pewter Robot wrote:Shit. I just realized that I didn't EQ anything in this track. It's been a while since I've opened the project... :P


I'm sorry, but how the hell is that even possible? Did you even listen to the track before hitting "render"? My mind is blown that someone would render a track, not listen to it, and even put it up as a submission for an album. If I were the OP, I'd actually feel like someone's trolling me.
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Re: Community House Mix

Postby ChromaticChaosPony » 04 Nov 2012 18:01

Matthew N. wrote:
Pewter Robot wrote:Shit. I just realized that I didn't EQ anything in this track. It's been a while since I've opened the project... :P


I'm sorry, but how the hell is that even possible? Did you even listen to the track before hitting "render"? My mind is blown that someone would render a track, not listen to it, and even put it up as a submission for an album. If I were the OP, I'd actually feel like someone's trolling me.


I have to agree. Why would you submit something that you haven't even listened to? Clearly you didn't if you forgot to EQ it.
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Re: Community House Mix

Postby Nine Volt » 04 Nov 2012 18:02

I hope to god that Pewter doesn't become the new Partyraw...
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Re: Community House Mix

Postby ChromaticChaosPony » 04 Nov 2012 18:15

Nine Volt wrote:I hope to god that Pewter doesn't become the new Partyraw...


PartRaw? Whodat?
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Re: Community House Mix

Postby Nine Volt » 04 Nov 2012 18:17

Can't tell if srs so I will act like you're srs

Partyraw tried to make Muffin Party, a shitty Music Theory thread and some other stuff. Everyone hated on him so he got mad and never came back :/

But back on the subject of house music. deadmau5.
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Re: Community House Mix

Postby Pewter Robot » 04 Nov 2012 19:55

Matthew N. wrote:
Pewter Robot wrote:Shit. I just realized that I didn't EQ anything in this track. It's been a while since I've opened the project... :P


I'm sorry, but how the hell is that even possible? Did you even listen to the track before hitting "render"? My mind is blown that someone would render a track, not listen to it, and even put it up as a submission for an album. If I were the OP, I'd actually feel like someone's trolling me.

Of course I listened to it. I listened to it many times, but I didn't notice that I didn't EQ the kicks. They sounded fine to me.
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Re: Community House Mix

Postby Pewter Robot » 04 Nov 2012 19:56

Nine Volt wrote:Can't tell if srs so I will act like you're srs

Partyraw tried to make Muffin Party, a shitty Music Theory thread and some other stuff. Everyone hated on him so he got mad and never came back :/

But back on the subject of house music. deadmau5.

Then i probably will become the new Partyraw. Every online community I join always ends up hating me. Same in real life. I could just leave now if you want...
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Re: Community House Mix

Postby ChromaticChaosPony » 04 Nov 2012 20:24

Nine Volt wrote:Can't tell if srs so I will act like you're srs

Partyraw tried to make Muffin Party, a shitty Music Theory thread and some other stuff. Everyone hated on him so he got mad and never came back :/

But back on the subject of house music. deadmau5.


Oh, I forgot about that person.
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Re: Community House Mix

Postby Pewter Robot » 04 Nov 2012 21:01

Wow. I just read some posts by Partyraw.
No wonder he left. You guys were absolute dicks to him. This web site wasn't at all what it seemed. All of you are just assholes. Fuck everyone here. You're just like every other human being: completely unlikeable.

Okay, I went full misanthrope mode here. Don't listen to me, I sometimes say things I don't mean.
But seriously, guys. Why were you bullying Partyraw?
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