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Eurobeat help

Postby yuky2k7 » 26 Oct 2013 21:24

Hi there! I'm new in this forum so I'm try to make some Eurobeat remixes.
I followed one tutorial here how to get a Eurobeat synth brass with a VST plugin Synth1
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Used the Suganoo's sounds
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But I still want to know how to get different synth brass like the kick, sabi sound, the guitar brass for eurobeat. Which are the pluggins I need for getting sound Eurobeat sounds like DJ Command?

I have in project making some decent remixes from Kpop songs.
Here's my first proyect
https://soundcloud.com/hugo-villar-carrillo/twinkle-twinkle-euro

And this is the original acapella chorus
https://soundcloud.com/hugo-villar-carrillo/chorus-twinkle

There's an interesting work I found, someone called Akyra made a good eurobeat remix of Gangnam Style.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmUcd3svuTI
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Re: Eurobeat help

Postby itroitnyah » 26 Oct 2013 22:19

Are you saying that you want to try and get your sound to sound like the original acapella chorus you linked to?

That's made with a vocoder. Sounds like the chorus mixed with a somewhat saw/white noise mixture.

If that's not what you were meaning, it would be appreciated if you could find an example of a sound you want to mimic so we know what you mean by "how to get different synth brass like the kick, sabi sound, the guitar brass for eurobeat".
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Re: Eurobeat help

Postby Freewave » 27 Oct 2013 17:20

Take a look in prior topics. I did a search with eurobeat in the topic name and there were plenty of tutorials. If you don't see anything answering a specific question let us know what you still have unanswered.
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Re: Eurobeat help

Postby Alycs » 28 Oct 2013 07:35

I don't make Eurobeat, so I don't have much experience, but from tutorials I've seen and the songs I've heard, it sounds like Synth1 is a solid bet for most of the sounds.

I looked up one of DJ Commands songs (Sun Worship of Gnosis), the opening sound sounds like 3 (maybe 4) saw waves detuned by a total increment of +-2 semitones. (-1, 0, 1) with a gradual widening of the detune amount.
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Re: Eurobeat help

Postby S.P.P » 29 Oct 2013 10:31

I see you're using FL, so here are some channel state files for 3xOsc.
https://dl.dropbox.com/s/5f6q97k59nviky ... 20Bass.fst
https://dl.dropbox.com/s/zkx7eopse7mljt ... %20Saw.fst
The "Eurobeat Saw" file works pretty well for the sabi in my opinion.

Not forgetting that Eurobeat leads are usually very layered you should have a basis for a tune along with the Synth1 patch there.

As for the brass, there are alot of synths that have what you're after, but I personally like the brass presets in Nexus (inb4 lazy, cheat, unoriginal, blaahhh).

Finally, drums. You want that cheesy 80's sound, so get some synthesized drums samples. 808's and 909's can work pretty well. Another nice little drum thing would be to get the sterotypical 80's-synth tom-roll going on (check the intro of Never Gonna Give You Up for a perfect example). I can imagine all of these drum samples being fairly easy to get hold of.

Hopefully that's been some sort of help for you. :3
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Re: Eurobeat help

Postby yuky2k7 » 30 Oct 2013 12:14

Thank you very PYR3LIGHT, this was what I'm looking for.
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Re: Eurobeat help

Postby EquinoxEurobeat » 10 Nov 2013 18:12

DJ Command's more recent brass is most likely from the JD-990. That's the synth Akyra used on his Gangnam style remix, too. Earlier DJ Command stuff used synth1. Synth1 is modeled after the Clavia Nord Lead 2 which is very prevalent in Eurobeat. Keep fiddling with Synth1 and you'll get something. If you don't feel like it though, I've made a pretty similar sound in massive that you can download. http://equinoxeurobeat.tumblr.com/post/ ... in-massive
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Re: Eurobeat help

Postby ChocolateChicken » 10 Nov 2013 18:38

For those that don't have Massive, do you think you could post a screenshot of the patch or give a brief list of ingredients for that sound? Synth Brass is such a good lead sound.
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Re: Eurobeat help

Postby Captain Ironhelm » 10 Nov 2013 21:22

ChocolateChicken wrote:For those that don't have Massive, do you think you could post a screenshot of the patch or give a brief list of ingredients for that sound? Synth Brass is such a good lead sound.





Here's Eurobeat Odyssey's video on what he does for Eurobeat Brass.
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Re: Eurobeat help

Postby ChocolateChicken » 10 Nov 2013 21:30

Captain Ironhelm wrote:Here's Eurobeat Odyssey's video on what he does for Eurobeat Brass.


I already saw that video, but the patch Equinox made is very different. And Eurobeat said this about the patch, "Seriously, guys, pick up this patch without question. It’s the sound I *wanted* to make in my tutorials."

Screenshot or ingredients of Equinox's patch please.
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Re: Eurobeat help

Postby Captain Ironhelm » 10 Nov 2013 22:14

ChocolateChicken wrote:. . .
Screenshot or ingredients of Equinox's patch please.


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Re: Eurobeat help

Postby ChocolateChicken » 11 Nov 2013 07:20

Thank you, kind sir! And thanks to Equinox for the great patch!
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Re: Eurobeat help

Postby KoolKool93 » 05 Jan 2014 05:45

(sr for bad english)
sugano's method and Odyssey...both work very well! the matter is you must know how to multi-layered to create a right riff sound, (at least 3 layers,each layer locate at different level of piano roll but all stay fixed in a position) ...which is really a trouble for a beginner like me..
Synth1 is free but powerful,low CPU load!

here i made a short test
https://soundcloud.com/hainam-1/eurobeat-test-part-ii

and don't forget to tweak the settings more,for make the sound thicker,harder,more effective,sound good as the riff sound you hear in real eurobeat as possible!

drum,kick,hat,guitar...!!??? maybe you should learn to make techno,trance first..for guitar bassline,if you don't have a real electric guitar,then i think VST like ReFX Slayer is a good alternative...

good luck! focus and you will get success! :mrgreen:
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Re: Eurobeat help

Postby S.P.P » 05 Jan 2014 09:36

KoolKool93 wrote:(sr for bad english)
sugano's method and Odyssey...both work very well! the matter is you must know how to multi-layered to create a right riff sound, (at least 3 layers,each layer locate at different level of piano roll but all stay fixed in a position) ...which is really a trouble for a beginner like me..:

I use a soft square/saw lead playing 4 note chords and make a sequence by inverting that chord. Next add your synth brass, a nice square bass, drums, and maybe some piano. That's fills your space right up!
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Re: Eurobeat help

Postby SticktheFigure » 05 Jan 2014 15:19

KoolKool93 wrote:t..for guitar bassline,if you don't have a real electric guitar,then i think VST like ReFX Slayer is a good alternative...

I'd be careful with that. Someone called me out on using slayer before.
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Re: Eurobeat help

Postby KoolKool93 » 05 Jan 2014 19:35

SticktheFigure wrote:
KoolKool93 wrote:t..for guitar bassline,if you don't have a real electric guitar,then i think VST like ReFX Slayer is a good alternative...

I'd be careful with that. Someone called me out on using slayer before.


i know! it never sound good as real guitar,for a guitar player,it sucks actually! :smile:

if you don't make a track with heavy influence of rock'n'roll ("speed of light" by snake ..example) then it's still fine!

....do you know any other good guitar vst??!!
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Re: Eurobeat help

Postby S.P.P » 06 Jan 2014 02:04

KoolKool93 wrote:....do you know any other good guitar vst??!!

NI Guitar Rig is a free amp simulator and sounds much better than most. Try running a sawtooth bass through it. :3
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Re: Eurobeat help

Postby CitricAcid » 06 Jan 2014 09:57

Pyrelight wrote:
KoolKool93 wrote:....do you know any other good guitar vst??!!

NI Guitar Rig is a free amp simulator and sounds much better than most. Try running a sawtooth bass through it. :3

The demos for Vir2 Electri6ity sound pretty sweet. It would be higher on my wish list if I didn't have to also have the full version of Kontakt.
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Re: Eurobeat help

Postby Conduit » 06 Jan 2014 11:58

Shreddage sounds pretty good for electric guitar if you run it through Guitar Rig or something similar. For acoustic I think 8Dio's steel string + the strummed version are the best sounding ones I've heard. I haven't really looked into it though, so I might be missing some good ones.
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Re: Eurobeat help

Postby SticktheFigure » 06 Jan 2014 20:09

Conduit wrote:Shreddage sounds pretty good for electric guitar if you run it through Guitar Rig or something similar. For acoustic I think 8Dio's steel string + the strummed version are the best sounding ones I've heard. I haven't really looked into it though, so I might be missing some good ones.

Oh man. I really, really, REALLY want Shreddage 2. It sounds choice.
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Re: Eurobeat help

Postby Freewave » 08 Jan 2014 15:11

Please keep this on topic with Eurobeat or continue guitar vst's / libraries in another thread please. ;)
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Re: Eurobeat help

Postby SticktheFigure » 09 Jan 2014 22:08

On the note of drums, I've been told that a good drum machine to use is the Roland JD800. I at least use the toms from it.
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Re: Eurobeat help

Postby KoolKool93 » 12 Jan 2014 07:37

take a look at Vandal,the guitar sound is nice enough (listen to some samples)
http://pro.magix.com/en/audio-plugins/v ... 1562.html#

anyone purchase and try newfield eurobeat sample pack?!! how good it is?
sample is somewhat discourage in my opinion,i wish he was nice enough to make tutorial or release presets instead,you will learn alots about eurobeat's theory,structure...more than just use sample

do you think eurobeat still can be made without vocal,lyrics? like trance,techno??!
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Re: Eurobeat help

Postby S.P.P » 12 Jan 2014 12:56

KoolKool93 wrote:take a look at Vandal,the guitar sound is nice enough (listen to some samples)
http://pro.magix.com/en/audio-plugins/v ... 1562.html#

anyone purchase and try newfield eurobeat sample pack?!! how good it is?
sample is somewhat discourage in my opinion,i wish he was nice enough to make tutorial or release presets instead,you will learn alots about eurobeat's theory,structure...more than just use sample

do you think eurobeat still can be made without vocal,lyrics? like trance,techno??!

I think samples are pretty Ok as you can clearly hear a sound that's been made, without all the other elements of the song also in the background. You can then build your synth to sound like the sample does. If the sample is a synth riff/melody/whatever, then you can also start to build your knowledge of the theory by what chords, progressions and scales are commonly used.

You can make eurobeat without vocals; StormWolf does so.
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Re: Eurobeat help

Postby KoolKool93 » 12 Feb 2014 02:49

found 2 more japanese eurobeat guide, very useful :razz:

http://anotherlife.matrix.jp/2011/08/20/655

http://www26.atwiki.jp/soundmake/pages/71.html

now go make hardcore music, with eurobeat brass..
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