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Musician pet peeves

Postby Mesogears » 15 Nov 2013 23:04

Do you ever encounter anything as a musician that really annoys you? Whether it has to do with recording, production, or just music in general, tell us your pet peeves!
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Re: Musician pet peeves

Postby Mr. Bigglesworth » 15 Nov 2013 23:07

Making these super awesome sounds and not having a use for them.
Having a promising wip but having no idea how to further it.
Musical block.
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Re: Musician pet peeves

Postby itroitnyah » 15 Nov 2013 23:20

Those musicians who walk into a forum and are like "hey I'm new" and then place down a piece they finished recently that has 8/10 composition, 9/10 structuring, 8.5/10 sound design, 9/10 mixing and a 8/10 mastering job. Like, what? No, you said you're new. Go back and make something shitty if you want me to believe you're new.... /sigh :sad: every time I think about this, my mind wraps around how all of my composition, sound design and structure sounds very generic and uninteresting.
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Re: Musician pet peeves

Postby Mr. Bigglesworth » 15 Nov 2013 23:32

Or musicians who know they're good and go out their way to rub it in your face instead of..I dunno, being helpful? I had a friend who improved a bunch after I spent an hour trying to keep him from giving up music altogether and about 3 weeks later he calls me up and spends 3 hours showing off and being douchey about it.

I'm not saying he owes me anything but shit some gratitude would be nice.
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Re: Musician pet peeves

Postby Facade » 15 Nov 2013 23:41

Mr. Bigglesworth wrote:
Having a promising wip but having no idea how to further it.
Musical block.

this and

not having any ideas worth shit

being completely shit at music
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Re: Musician pet peeves

Postby FLAOFEI » 16 Nov 2013 01:54

I like this thread.

I don't like when you listen to popular radio stuff and hear the things that you would have done differently.
I remember a song that had a melody that was 1/8 to early D:< why could they not keep it on the beat? And another one that was on beat when it should clearly be ofbeat...
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Re: Musician pet peeves

Postby Fimbulin » 16 Nov 2013 06:47

Parallel 5ths used without any logical good reason.

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Re: Musician pet peeves

Postby PropellerEscape » 16 Nov 2013 07:24

When you think you've made something good, then go listen to other work and realise what you've made is awful.
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Re: Musician pet peeves

Postby topitmunkeydog » 16 Nov 2013 07:52

when Glee does

also when your ukulele string falls off of the ukuleleeee
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Re: Musician pet peeves

Postby 3ternal » 16 Nov 2013 07:58

When I make a really awesome bass, only to remember "Hey wait, I can't compose EDM for shit".
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Re: Musician pet peeves

Postby simonli2575 » 16 Nov 2013 08:16

PropellerEscape wrote:When you think you've made something good, then go listen to other work and realise what you've made is awful.

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Re: Musician pet peeves

Postby CitricAcid » 16 Nov 2013 08:19

When people talk bogus music theory. No, there's no such thing as an augmented scale, you made it up.
When people don't realize there's a difference between a musician and a composer. (I try not to let this one get to me, though.)
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Re: Musician pet peeves

Postby Mesogears » 16 Nov 2013 08:49

Ok, now that this thread is picking up speed, I'll post mine:

People who think electronic musicians aren't "real" musicians
People who call all electronic music "techno."
People who call all electronic music "dubstep."
People who think electronic music only consists of EDM.
The annoying obsession with bass / bass drops that plagues the EDM community
When people follow you on Soundcloud hoping for a follow back, then immediately unfollow you if you do
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Everything that's been said previously in this thread
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Re: Musician pet peeves

Postby simonli2575 » 16 Nov 2013 09:01

Mesogears wrote:People who call all electronic music "dubstep."

People who think Skrillex is the god of music and those who think they're listening to proper Dubstep.
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Re: Musician pet peeves

Postby itroitnyah » 16 Nov 2013 09:18

People who call Skrillex "improper dubstep". Moreover every single argument about dubstep ever. Genres evolve over time and just because it's modern and not old style and blahblah dalkfhdkjabvleiruwehkrjagdslf

SHUT UP

Dubstep itself wasn't even an original genre, it developed off of combinations of other genres, as did almost every single other genre in this god damn world. Just because the dubstep doesn't focus mainly on the sub in the drop does not mean it's not dubstep, and arguing so is like complaining that a rock song that has a part where a piano plays a large part in a section of the song isn't a rock song. I can accept that you like a different style of dubstep that I do but don't be a fucking cunt about it, shithead *Glares at computer screen*

But I digress. Move along people, nothing to argue about here.
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Re: Musician pet peeves

Postby topitmunkeydog » 16 Nov 2013 09:34

when u band members kick u out of the band
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Re: Musician pet peeves

Postby the4thImpulse » 16 Nov 2013 09:41

Mr. Bigglesworth wrote:Or musicians who know they're good and go out their way to rub it in your face instead of..I dunno, being helpful? I had a friend who improved a bunch after I spent an hour trying to keep him from giving up music altogether and about 3 weeks later he calls me up and spends 3 hours showing off and being douchey about it.

I'm not saying he owes me anything but shit some gratitude would be nice.


Similar story here but my 'friend' ditched me and went on to get gigs, never talked to me again.
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Re: Musician pet peeves

Postby Captain Ironhelm » 16 Nov 2013 10:20

Self-entitled noob amateur musicians who think they deserve to be treated like professionals.
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Re: Musician pet peeves

Postby Freewave » 16 Nov 2013 10:47

Captain Ironhelm wrote:Self-entitled noob amateur musicians who think they deserve to be treated like professionals.

Agreed

but also

Self-entitled brony "professional musicians" who think they deserve to be treated like stars. If you're not signed by a music label and you do this in your part time, then you're just an amateur musician like the rest of us. That's 99.8% of the community.

Personal vent and bad experience here: You make pony music, I make pony music. You charge money for it and and got flown out to my brony convention and comped at every step. I do it for free and drove 40 minutes to get up here (there and back, EVERY day). I loaned my equiptment, lights, and time so others could have a great performance and I barely got a word of thanks from quite a few of them and my own set actually was negatively effected in the process. If you really feel you have to hang out in your hotel room with those who similarily flew out with you then socialize with the rest of the "smaller" local musicians and the people who attended then convention then that's pretty terrible. I see all of these pictures of the original brony conventions where you had 30-40 musicians all hanging out with each other, going to a Denny's, and those seem that they are simply a thing of the past. Hang out with your friends but don't shut others out and be anti-social ffs. (Aimed at no one in here thank god)

Probably should have saved that for the confessional but there you go....if it wasn't for some down to earth people I did hang out with then I would have had a pretty bad time. Stuff like this occurring happens throughout the community and online and its frankly unacceptable.
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Re: Musician pet peeves

Postby Magnitude Zero » 16 Nov 2013 10:56

I V vi IV

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Songs that are popular because of I V vi IV and otherwise have absolutely nothing going for them

Artists that abuse the I V vi IV progression even when they're good enough that they don't need to resort to that sort of cheap trick (this one's the worst)

Everything about that chord progression
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Re: Musician pet peeves

Postby ExoBassTix » 16 Nov 2013 12:14

Mesogears wrote:People who think electronic musicians aren't "real" musicians
People who call all electronic music "techno."
People who call all electronic music "dubstep."
People who think electronic music only consists of EDM.
The annoying obsession with bass / bass drops that plagues the EDM community
When people follow you on Soundcloud hoping for a follow back, then immediately unfollow you if you do

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Re: Musician pet peeves

Postby ClaviSound » 16 Nov 2013 12:44

One thing that isn't a pet peeve of mine, oddly enough, is people saying rap isn't "real music." I dunno, I find it fun to agree with them. That being said, I do have some things people say about the genre or do that irritate me:

-People who think rap is just "talking" over a borrowed loop
-People who think rap is only for those people who can't sing
-People who think that you "have to be black" to rap. (Yes, the industry is dominated by black males, but that does not make it a prerequisite; jazz music originated from the Harlem Renaissance of the 1920's-30's and had very heavy African-American influence, do you "have to be black" to play jazz music?) That being said, I do understand that black people have a natural awesomeness bonus with their accent, and if you simply prefer that over Caucasian performances, then that makes sense to me.

(For the purpose of keeping a straight record, I am white.)

-People who say "oh rap is easy I could do that" and then drop lame rhymes like "yo I'm cool, too cool for school, I'm no fool, because I totally rule"
-People who sound more like they're coughing than beatboxing
-People who think the only good rap music has come out after 2000
-People who think the only rap music is the drugs-hoes-'n-money-Lil-Wayne-type
-People who think Eminem is the greatest rapper of all time
-People who think Eminem is the worst rapper of all time (seriously if I have to hear another argument about why Eminem is the best/sucks I'm going to kill someone)

And worst of all:

-People who say "I don't normally like rap but I like this" (Of course you like it, it's probably actually decent, unlike your own perception of the genre)
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Re: Musician pet peeves

Postby JSynth » 16 Nov 2013 13:16

Captain Ironhelm wrote:Self-entitled noob amateur musicians who think they deserve to be treated like professionals.


Yes, this. Though, I will be honest. I was like this once.

itroitnyah wrote:People who call Skrillex "improper dubstep". Moreover every single argument about dubstep ever. Genres evolve over time and just because it's modern and not old style and blahblah dalkfhdkjabvleiruwehkrjagdslf

SHUT UP

Dubstep itself wasn't even an original genre, it developed off of combinations of other genres, as did almost every single other genre in this god damn world. Just because the dubstep doesn't focus mainly on the sub in the drop does not mean it's not dubstep, and arguing so is like complaining that a rock song that has a part where a piano plays a large part in a section of the song isn't a rock song. I can accept that you like a different style of dubstep that I do but don't be a fucking cunt about it, shithead *Glares at computer screen*

But I digress. Move along people, nothing to argue about here.


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Mesogears wrote:People who call all electronic music "techno."


My stepmother does this and it drives me nuts.
Her: Don't you make techno music?
Me: I have never made it in my life

Mesogears wrote:People who think electronic musicians aren't "real" musicians


Person: Electronic musicians like Skrillex aren't real musicians.
Me: Pretty sure that Skrillex can play the guitar.
Person: Well, he is an exception.
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Re: Musician pet peeves

Postby ExoBassTix » 16 Nov 2013 13:27

itroitnyah wrote:People who call Skrillex "improper dubstep". Moreover every single argument about dubstep ever. Genres evolve over time and just because it's modern and not old style and blahblah dalkfhdkjabvleiruwehkrjagdslf

SHUT UP

Dubstep itself wasn't even an original genre, it developed off of combinations of other genres, as did almost every single other genre in this god damn world. Just because the dubstep doesn't focus mainly on the sub in the drop does not mean it's not dubstep, and arguing so is like complaining that a rock song that has a part where a piano plays a large part in a section of the song isn't a rock song. I can accept that you like a different style of dubstep that I do but don't be a fucking cunt about it, shithead *Glares at computer screen*

But I digress. Move along people, nothing to argue about here.

The point is (yes I'm engaging a discussion about Dubstep) that people who like Modern Dubstep don't separate it with Dubstep. 1) It's not much to call it what it is, 2) arguments wouldn't be necessary.
Just like Techno is a form of Electronic music, but not all Electronic music is Techno.
Modern Dubstep is a form of Dubstep, but not all Dubstep is Modern Dubstep.
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Re: Musician pet peeves

Postby itroitnyah » 16 Nov 2013 13:53

ExoBassTix wrote:The point is (yes I'm engaging a discussion about Dubstep) that people who like Modern Dubstep don't separate it with Dubstep. 1) It's not much to call it what it is, 2) arguments wouldn't be necessary.
Just like Techno is a form of Electronic music, but not all Electronic music is Techno.
Modern Dubstep is a form of Dubstep, but not all Dubstep is Modern Dubstep.
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You have got to be kidding me.

Ok. So, Queen. The majority of Queen's music is... Rock, right? We'd certainly all not agree on this.

How about AC/DC? I'm sure that all of us would also agree that they're rock, right?

What I can't understand now, is why it is that they're not called different genres if their music sounds so different from each other. And I don't want to suddenly have people say "Well, AC/DC is more of a hard rock and Queen is more of a somethingsomething rock" because that's like the difference between liquid dubstep and regular dubstep. In the end, it's still rock/dubstep.
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