Official Discussion Thread (Ghost Edit)

[Bronies Are Cool]

Has anyone ever noticed that if you put apple headphones in your ear correctly, you can actually hear the subs in music pretty easily?

Edit: i just had to explain to a coworker that I don't know his password to something because the password is defaulted as his social security number plus his last name and I have no idea what his social security number is.

[ph00tbag]

Did he then proceed to start telling you his SSN?

[Bronies Are Cool]

Did he then proceed to start telling you his SSN?

Lol he probably would have. The password that he needed only required a certain number of digits of his ssn. He started trying to tell me it, but I cut him off because I don't want to know it, and even if he did tell me just then, I would not be able to confirm that it was correct since I have no idea what it really is.

[Acsii]

Did he then proceed to start telling you his SSN?

wouldn't surprise me XD

[Acsii]

Also as a non american I don't really know what a SSN is so could someone explain it to me?

[ExoBassTix]

Seems like Social Security Number. Not sure tho, am not American. Sounds like the civilian service number we got in The Netherlands (if I'm not mistaken with the name).

[Bronies Are Cool]

The SSN is the social security number assigned to people at birth. It is used when applying for jobs and when paying taxes. It also has other uses but is basically like a government issued identification number.


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[Acsii]

Ah so it's like a tax file number in Australia but you don't have to apply for it

[Mr. Bigglesworth]

Speaking of Australia, we just got a new Prime Minister. We've had 5 Prime Ministers in 5 years our politics are kinda turning into a game of baton relay. Still, new guy is technically an improvement over Abbott.

[ph00tbag]

I mean, in all honesty, is it that hard to improve on Abbot?

Over here, I'm really hoping for Bernie Sanders as the next president.

[Bronies Are Cool]

And I'm over here kind of hoping for Trump as the next president.

[Mr. Bigglesworth]

I sincerely hope you're not actually that stupid.

[Ricky Denzel]

And I still don't know what you guys are talking about.

[Bronies Are Cool]

I sincerely hope you're not actually that stupid.

Lol. I'm not going to vote.
I'm not sure of all the candidates and all their positions on all the issues.
Literally, I don't even know a lot about what Donald is even all about.
I know that if he is elected, instead of paying 30% on my taxes like I do, I would have to pay about 1-2% instead. Which means I can literally have a good 9600 more dollars a year.
And also, I know he dislikes illegal immigrants. I don't see why it's wrong to dislike ILLEGAL immigration. Nothing wrong with legal immigration. Just illegal immigration because, you know, it's illegal.
Other than that, I'm uneducated.
And that is why I am not voting.

[LFP]

I sincerely hope you're not actually that stupid.

Lol. I'm not going to vote.
I'm not sure of all the candidates and all their positions on all the issues.
Literally, I don't even know a lot about what Donald is even all about.
I know that if he is elected, instead of paying 30% on my taxes like I do, I would have to pay about 1-2% instead. Which means I can literally have a good 9600 more dollars a year.
And also, I know he dislikes illegal immigrants. I don't see why it's wrong to dislike ILLEGAL immigration. Nothing wrong with legal immigration. Just illegal immigration because, you know, it's illegal.
Other than that, I'm uneducated.
And that is why I am not voting.

Lowering taxes from 30% to 1-2% would probably ruin Americas entire infrastructure and the economy would be a total disaster, I can't even comprehend how stupid something like that would be.
That's just one of the extremely many reasons you shouldn't vote on trump for, his campaign promises are a total joke and caters to people who fall for the cheap tricks and aren't invested enough to actually know what's going on.
It's like someone saying "hey vote for me and if i get to be president everyone will get a million dollars!"

[Mr. Bigglesworth]

If you don't vote you're just part of a bigger problem. Not voting isn't a solution, it's indecision. Our budget reform a couple years back almost left everyone making less than $15000 annually intelligible for support for up to 6 months. Do you think that problem would have gone away if we sat on our hands and did nothing?

[Bronies Are Cool]

Let's just imagine for a second here that I did vote.
I could easily vote for the "wrong guy" because I simply don't know what's right or wrong.
Or I could be on of many to fall for the tricks of lying politicians.

My thought process is this: Trump is rich. He is a successful business man. I would think that when it comes to money, he probably knows what he is doing. Like for example, taxes on pay checks will be smaller. Sure. But who knows if taxes in other places will be higher? Like at the store or on some other thing.
This 1-2% tax would only apply to people who are relatively poor. It's for the lowest bracket of money making people. Rich people would be paying more like 15%. (Which i am guessing is more than what they currently pay.) the more money you make, the higher the % you pay. Which I think is smart.

Now I have no idea what kind of decisions on other important things trump would make. He seems to be very "Murcia" and is prideful of his country. (Kind of.) he at least wants immigration set right.
This doesn't really affect me too much. I'm not against immigrants in any way. It makes a lot of sense to want to leave a poverty stricken place and go to a place where you might have better odds at living slightly better.
Illegal immigrants are kind of a problem though. Trump may possibly blow it out of proportion for just how many of them are "bad people" but what I think is wrong with them is that 1.) it's illegal to be here illegally. And 2.) they don't pay taxes on the money they earn.
I wouldn't give a hoot about them if they paid taxes. Because the taxes that I lay partially contribute to their education and health care and that kind of stuff. I am helping out people who are living here illegally and I am a person that is close to being on the verge of needing help myself.
Setting that straight would be a slight help. I really wouldn't know how much though.
It might actually tank the economy in some local areas though. If the population of illegal workers are high in some areas, a lot of employed illegals would be removed which would open the jobs there, but also it would leave them empty. And being empty is not good because nothing is getting done.

Other than how rude trump is, or how racist he is, I haven't actually heard a good point as to specifically why he would be a bad president.
His specific good points are:
-changes on income tax
-illegal immigration changes

Someone, please fill in the cons for trump:
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(**Note: don't take offense. At this point in time, I am a bystander. I have not made any official decisions about anything. So, don't be offended by my opinions or questions. Thanks)

[Mr. Bigglesworth]

You need to do some reading. For one, he's gone bankrupt 4 times, I wouldn't trust him on a $5 coffee run because he'd come back with a $1000 debt and an empty cup instead. Secondly do you really think he's legit concerned about immigration? He's so obviously stirring the pot to get people who don't know better to rally against something. And secondly on that point he doesn't seem to have a problem with outsourcing most of his corporate work to other countries for someone who wants to "make America strong". Not to mention the stuff LFP mentioned. Fact is, trump is a bad candidate. I'm legitimately worried about what'd happen if he won, what happens in America has effects here too.

[Mr. Bigglesworth]

Not to mention any time he contracts someone for work he screws them out of their full pay and sues them if they contest him. You really think he's interested in money for OTHER people?

[Acsii]

So basically you want to vote for someone that has lead multi billion companies to bankruptcy twice(?) and let him lead a country? If you want to vote for someone who si an actual human and knows what the fuck he's doing, vote for Bernie Sanders.

[Bronies Are Cool]

Question: when America gets a new president, how does it affect other countries. (I've never reapply actually thought about that before.)

[Acsii]

Question: when America gets a new president, how does it affect other countries. (I've never reapply actually thought about that before.)

well the economy is linked world wide, so if the american economy was to crash, the whole world would follow most likely, as the major stock trading centre is America. Also the fact that a lot of resources are bought by america, so other countries exporting would stop if America can no longer afford to buy said resources. Basically the whole world is connected.

[ph00tbag]

To his credit, Donald Trump does actually talk a lot about making taxes impact the wealthy more than the poor. I'm not sure how much he intends to make good on that--my biggest gripe with him (you know, besides the fact that he is every kind of bigot I can think of) is that he is well-established as a lying, cheating swindler who cares more about Trump than anyone else--but there is some kind of merit to his financial policies.

But you want me to fill in cons for Trump?

-Openly racist: Doesn't see any need for reforms to combat systemic racism, has even prevaricated when confronted with the fact that his words have inspired at least one hate crime.
-Openly misogynist: Does not support reproductive rights, or see any need to address the lingering problems facing women in this country.
-Openly homophobic: Does not support gay marriage.
-Borderline criminal past in his business dealings: No, seriously, this guy has used every dirty trick in the book to minimize overhead, and undermine even the idea of competition. Those four bankruptcies? They weren't because he failed to run his business; they were because he didn't want to have to keep paying his employees after he had cashed out on the business model. If Hillary Clinton is untrustworthy for using her personal email for work correspondence, what the hell does Trump's past say about him?

But you want to know about Other candidates, so here's Bernie. Bernie Sanders is against the TPP, which will most likely export American Copyright Law overseas, as well as thousands of American jobs, and move even more of the 1%'s already nebulous cash flow out of the country, and out of federal taxabilty. He proposes decreased taxes on the middle and lower classes, with steep raises in upper class tax rates, as well as removing a lot of expensive tax cuts that benefit corporate interest groups. He supports strong federal labor laws that protect national level unions. He supports gay marriage, income equality, law enforcement reform, redesegregation of schools, housing equality, reproductive rights, and pathway to citizenship. On top of that, he has long been one of the most transparent and conviction-driven politicians in America, and is easily the most likable candidate in the entire field. The only con to Bernie I can really find is that he's a bit on the old side. But that's not even a con, really.

As an aside, my dream ticket at this point is Sanders/Warren. Holy shit, I would probably faint.

Question: when America gets a new president, how does it affect other countries. (I've never reapply actually thought about that before.)

To clarify on Acsii's post, the price of oil, one of the foundational commodities of the global economy, is set in US dollars, which means much of the global market has to work in our currency. When the US economy struggles, the rest of the world struggles as a direct result. We're also a huge trading partner with many other nations; if we're not the top trading partner for a given developed nation, we're definitely in their top five. If we stop spending, even for a minute, a lot of economies suddenly have something like three fourths the income they did. Imagine you're paid $12 an hour, then your boss says the company's making big cuts and now you're only paid $9/hour. That's huge. Most of the developed world has a keen interest in seeing the US do well, economically, so they want to see presidents who have a strong fiscal policy.

If I'm 100% honest, I don't actually see a lot of huge differences between the things Trump and Sanders are talking about, fiscally. Trump could very well be a strong economic president. I don't want to discount that. But he's a fucking snake. We already had one Nixon. Please, let's not have another.

[Bronies Are Cool]

There needs to be a "like" button on this forum because I would press the like button on some of the posts in here.
Acsii +1pt
Ph00tbag +1pt

[ph00tbag]

I'll be honest, what you've displayed here is actually another problem with American politics. Often, a candidate's popularity among voters is heavily weighted by media exposure. At this point, Trump dominates the airwaves simply by being an incorrigible, hate-filled bigot, and has pretty much stifled any kind of discussion within the Republican party by stealing away any camera time the other candidates may try to get their hands on (In most cases probably for the best, although Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush do occasionally have things to say that I wish more people would pay attention to). On the other side of the aisle, the mainstream media is in hysterics over Clinton's imploding campaign, and can't come up with a replacement, establishment candidate that they like, so there's no publicity on the Democrat side. Bernie isn't really a darling of mainstream media, for reasons I'm not fully clear on, but the overwhelming response from the media to the fact that Sanders is leading the Democratic ticket in New Hampshire and Iowa is bemused chagrin. So he doesn't get the press you'd think he'd warrant for a Democratic Nomination frontrunner.

Because Trump is all you're exposed to in the mainstream media, as a result of all this, he's the only candidate you know anything about. Rather than just rely on the evening news for your political knowledge, I recommend using this quiz: https://www.isidewith.com/. You can answer a bunch of questions about the variety of issues we face, and they'll suggest candidates that suit you. That way, you can better educate yourself about each candidate's platform.