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Re: IMPORTANT: The Future of Brony Music

Postby Senator Myth » 15 Aug 2011 17:23

NotaClever's plan seems like the best plan. It's a pretty fair balance between all of the ideas presented in this thread.

...Yeah, don't really have anything else to say about it. I say let's do it!
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Re: IMPORTANT: The Future of Brony Music

Postby RobotPony » 15 Aug 2011 18:04

It's certainly an improvement and would give a place for people to go for brony music. I support it.
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Re: IMPORTANT: The Future of Brony Music

Postby Makkon » 16 Aug 2011 00:49

DJShamrock wrote:Well, as sort of the representative from Celestia Radio, I'd like to thank all of you guys who have taken the time to upload your latest and greatest music to us. I know that our listeners always love hearing the newest stuff, and we've had a great experience thus far since I've been DJing with you guys giving us first exclusive picks of your best WIPs.

DJAlexS and PinkieCake to name just a few who have realized the advertising potential and immediate feedback that we can provide for you guys. And not to mention, we get even more listeners when you promote us by letting us play your music! It's definitely a reciprocating benefit for all of us. If you think it would be beneficial to put up some kind of 'how to upload' guide or something in reference to how new music is given to us at CR, please let me know, I would love to help.

And as always, you can just send me your latest stuff on Skype and I'll play it live anytime I'm on air at CRadio (which is everyday).

Now, in reference to a mode of advertisement via EDaily, it is getting difficult for Sethisto to keep up with all the demands. I wonder if it would be simpler for them to have like a download link or something on their site (as a tab in the top menu) where people could access an archive of music? Possibly with a featured song of the day or something.

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Re: IMPORTANT: The Future of Brony Music

Postby [voodoopony] » 19 Aug 2011 20:27

While all these ideas seem great to me, the only bug I see is while there's plenty of music, not a whole lot of bronies are into it in general. This forum is almost all producers showing each other their stuff. Even with EqD marketing us, we still don't have a very large following [or, not big enough]. I have a feeling it's going to be the same way with the blog.

But that's just me being cynical. Good luck! :D
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Re: IMPORTANT: The Future of Brony Music

Postby Pinkie Cake » 20 Aug 2011 04:39

Lots of good ideas here. I try to put my suggestion/idea in words here.

Running a similar blog to EqD isn't a bad idea, but the problem is that nopony will know about it. But my idea is this:
    We have our own blog.
    We all can post in it our music and we can write a description or just random text ourselves
    Once in a while (2-4 times per week) our moderator gathers all the recent song and compiles them in a single post that is featured in EqD. Something similar to Drawfriend Stuff

There would be a button from EqD to our music blog ofc if somepony would want to hear a songs earlyer or post a comment on specific track/artist if they want to, find links to all of our gathering places and our youtubes, soundclouds, bandcamps...


We would take a piece of EqD to ourselves and rule it as kings :lol:

P.S. I just read NACPs post again, well my idea is similar. And I still think that his idea is the best ;)
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Re: IMPORTANT: The Future of Brony Music

Postby Snappy Scoop » 23 Feb 2012 06:19

Loving the ideas in this thread, and I especially support NotAClever's plan the most, although the blog would probably need some kind of advertising on EqD itself, either in the music posts or as a link on the page somewhere so that all the bronies who frequent EqD (as in every brony ever) knows where all their music updates have disappeared too.

Other than that I think that is the best idea so far for sure.
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Re: IMPORTANT: The Future of Brony Music

Postby Icky » 23 Feb 2012 07:12

Is it cOLD in here, or is it just me?
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Re: IMPORTANT: The Future of Brony Music

Postby bartekko » 23 Feb 2012 08:52

Icky wrote:Is it cOLD in here, or is it just me?


Good way to bump a topic.
In theory, we have prelisteners, but that's the only thing that changed in eqd's way of handling music.
Also, prelisteners are not handled the way they should be: Their feedback is not sent back to the author, and in many cases (such as mine) not a single word is sent back in case of not making it to eqd, making it feel like giving someone the finger and punching in the face
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Re: IMPORTANT: The Future of Brony Music

Postby Freewave » 23 Feb 2012 09:42

Hmm this is a well needed bump as any of the times I've submitted to EqD I too have not received ANY reply back. Part of their TOA is that any music submission will recieve a response and I've seen that's simply not the case from personal experience which is very frustrating. Some people have had success sending a submission of other people's vids but even then that just seems more like a random success then a rule of thumb.

It's a shame as obviously the top tier of artists have loads of subscribers, can put out a great track, and it will be on there the next day and they would have thousands of views with or w/o EqD. It seems EqD isn't against putting a new artist's music on there when its good but they do avoid repeating giving further exposure to artists who then try to get on there again at a later point. I appreciated the one time I made it on EdD for a 5 week old track (w/o the remix credit mind you) but I've never but shown another glance since then or gotten an email response on further submissions. As people have said its frustrating to the point of being insulting by not getting a response or having it being such a closed hidden process of how they operate. Even a general rejection letter would be an improvement over no response. Is there anyone from EqD on MLR who can even speak or address these concerns here?

Honestly maybe the best bet might be to look for alternatives to expose our music to other bronies. Places like http://www.equestrianbeat.com/ may have closed for business :( but were a good idea and I think there may be other good alternatives out there. While they don't have the readership of EqD they may be more better suited to just music and can gain some readership. If there's any alternatives on who to submit to then let's discuss that in here rather than just complain about EqD which may be a lost cause. Maybe even organize around an existing blog or site or start up a new blog if nothing else really fits that need.

Other then that I recommend the slow growth process of gaining fans simply by networking with other artists on soundcloud, youtube, toastbeard, mlr, tumblr, etc and then trying to comment on other's work and being there for for your fellow brony artists; just being present and listening as much as you are producing. But if anyone has any brilliant ideas on making it easier to get their music to brony non-musicians rather than to just each other I'm all ears on what can be done...
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Re: IMPORTANT: The Future of Brony Music

Postby SeventhElement » 28 Feb 2012 19:45

DJ Pon-3 wrote:Last paragraph.


^this

I realize I'm kinda new here and I'm not exactly a shimmering pillar of the community, but I think DJ Pon-3 is right. As nice as it would be to have a conduit for all the wonderful musicians here to spread outwards in to fame or familiarity rather, it's a hard thing to do just by ourselves(referring to MLR as a whole). To get partnered with a site like EqD would be nice, but I'm not sure if that's exactly pragmatic or not either(It's a big site, packed with a lot of stuff). If we ran anything like a blog site, that would put a work load on a certain panel of individuals that would be working constantly to update with new content(not that there's not a ton of content to update with), but it would take a serious amount of time and effort. Getting followers like EqD might be kinda difficult because the readers of that look for much, much more than just music. This might feel like a blog for audiophiles. Unless someone has a solution otherwise.

I realize my paragraph is sort of a jumble of whimsical nonsense, but does anything I say make any sense at all?
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Re: IMPORTANT: The Future of Brony Music

Postby MasterOfRegret » 28 Feb 2012 23:19

I can't say anything for sure.
I went on http://www.equestrianbeat.com everyday, more often than I did EqD. It was definitely one of things I looked forward to after school. The reason they shut down was because Nick (multifish) had school, Sonic was dead, Soggy really only did banners, (when I didn't steal his thunder) and they fell out of the loop. What I would like to see is it being revived. I'm sure that it would be simple to contact Multifish and talk about getting some people from MLR on the team. This would ensure they kept on top of things, right? A larger team of blog ponies would mean that the site wouldn't have that problem of not posting. I can't say for sure how he would feel about that, but I think he would definitely consider the idea with an open mind.
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Re: IMPORTANT: The Future of Brony Music

Postby SeventhElement » 29 Feb 2012 00:23

^Hey! There's an idea!

I actually haven't heard of the site until today. Sad to see a domain and site like that go to waste :/
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Re: IMPORTANT: The Future of Brony Music

Postby DerpyGrooves » 01 Mar 2012 01:39

brokensyntax wrote:^Hey! There's an idea!

I actually haven't heard of the site until today. Sad to see a domain and site like that go to waste :/


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Re: IMPORTANT: The Future of Brony Music

Postby Freewave » 01 Mar 2012 11:27

MasterOfRegret wrote:I can't say anything for sure.
I went on http://www.equestrianbeat.com everyday, more often than I did EqD. It was definitely one of things I looked forward to after school. The reason they shut down was because Nick (multifish) had school, Sonic was dead, Soggy really only did banners, (when I didn't steal his thunder) and they fell out of the loop. What I would like to see is it being revived. I'm sure that it would be simple to contact Multifish and talk about getting some people from MLR on the team. This would ensure they kept on top of things, right? A larger team of blog ponies would mean that the site wouldn't have that problem of not posting. I can't say for sure how he would feel about that, but I think he would definitely consider the idea with an open mind.


I think this is overall the best idea. Taking a good site that has/has active readership and a domain name and seeing if they'd be willing to relauch with additional or new authors for it. I've run about 9 blogspot blogs over time and it's a very easy system to use. Doing stuff like Top tracks for the week or every 2 weeks, Cutie Mark Crusader of the week (great new track by a new artist), Artist / Album spotlights, and Toastbeard Theme of the week and last week's winners would be a great way to have an audio centered site and have something that's NOT just a complete startup. Maybe even a Youtube tie-in with playlists/subscribers/etc. I haven't emailed him yet over (debated it in the past) but I think its a good idea and I'd be on board with any volunteers who would like to go that direction.
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Re: IMPORTANT: The Future of Brony Music

Postby Freewave » 01 Mar 2012 11:40

Well I didn't see an email but I commented on his latest post and linked it back to this thread if he wanted to discuss it on the forum in person. Hopefully he'll see the reponse/comment.

http://www.equestrianbeat.com/2012/01/e ... iness.html

If anyone has his email or another way to contact please ask him as well to speed this along (I'm at work for the next couple of days so cannot).
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Re: IMPORTANT: The Future of Brony Music

Postby MasterOfRegret » 01 Mar 2012 12:45

DJ Pon-3 wrote:Well I didn't see an email but I commented on his latest post and linked it back to this thread if he wanted to discuss it on the forum in person. Hopefully he'll see the reponse/comment.

http://www.equestrianbeat.com/2012/01/e ... iness.html

If anyone has his email or another way to contact please ask him as well to speed this along (I'm at work for the next couple of days so cannot).


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Re: IMPORTANT: The Future of Brony Music

Postby SeventhElement » 01 Mar 2012 13:19

Also I believe we need to find some sort of way, perhaps a library of sorts, to house all MIDIs and source files for remixing. As nice as the "Sharing is Magic" forum is, I feel that digging through all of that is kinda inefficient for the artists. I dunno, just a thought.
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Re: IMPORTANT: The Future of Brony Music

Postby Freewave » 01 Mar 2012 13:51

brokensyntax wrote:Also I believe we need to find some sort of way, perhaps a library of sorts, to house all MIDIs and source files for remixing. As nice as the "Sharing is Magic" forum is, I feel that digging through all of that is kinda inefficient for the artists. I dunno, just a thought.


Maybe just a pinned thread with a masterlist of all stems just to make it easy to find everything here. Seach works pretty good so it would be nice to have MLR be the headquarters for all that.
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Re: IMPORTANT: The Future of Brony Music

Postby SeventhElement » 01 Mar 2012 13:59

DJ Pon-3 wrote:
brokensyntax wrote:Also I believe we need to find some sort of way, perhaps a library of sorts, to house all MIDIs and source files for remixing. As nice as the "Sharing is Magic" forum is, I feel that digging through all of that is kinda inefficient for the artists. I dunno, just a thought.


Maybe just a pinned thread with a masterlist of all stems just to make it easy to find everything here. Seaqch works pretty good so it would be nice to have MLR be the headquarters for all that.
Yeah, but somewhere where the MIDIs are hosted as well. Sometimes stuff gets deleted from dropboxes or files disappear or something. Or is there already a centralized place where the files are actually stored?
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Re: IMPORTANT: The Future of Brony Music

Postby Freewave » 01 Mar 2012 15:02

brokensyntax wrote:
DJ Pon-3 wrote:
brokensyntax wrote:Also I believe we need to find some sort of way, perhaps a library of sorts, to house all MIDIs and source files for remixing. As nice as the "Sharing is Magic" forum is, I feel that digging through all of that is kinda inefficient for the artists. I dunno, just a thought.


Maybe just a pinned thread with a masterlist of all stems just to make it easy to find everything here. Seaqch works pretty good so it would be nice to have MLR be the headquarters for all that.
Yeah, but somewhere where the MIDIs are hosted as well. Sometimes stuff gets deleted from dropboxes or files disappear or something. Or is there already a centralized place where the files are actually stored?


nah there's no centralized place, most people just use a free hosting site and hopefully they'll last for a few months. if they are deleted you can go back and find the original author and ask for a re-upload. i'm with you though that i like getting the indic track stems AND a midi as they are easy very usefull when remxining. It would be nice to see everything ON the sharing is magic subforum as its a great place to link all that and a great place for it (for new and ol users alike).
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Re: IMPORTANT: The Future of Brony Music

Postby sonic30 » 01 Mar 2012 15:58

Hey guys.
Well, I'm sonic30 from the very same site we're talking about here, and I must say:
I had no idea we were missed this much. I mean, I knew we had a few people checking out the site regularly, but for somebody to say that they went to Equestrian Rhythm (or Equestrian Beat, whichever you prefer) more often than they went to Equestria Daily? That was a bit of a shocker to me.

As you can see, I'm not really dead. I just somehow managed to lose some e-mail information when switching e-mail addresses and such, but I've got it all recovered now. I won't say more about my disappearance, as it would sound like excuses, and I'd rather you not comment upon it. What's done is done.

However, I can honestly say that I would love to see a revival of the site, and I would gladly jump back on board to be able to start putting out more posts. Now that I have my old information back, and it's been made apparent that our little site wasn't so little, I will make an active effort to try and get Multi and Soggy back into things.
After all, I hadn't tried to revive the site by myself, as I didn't realize how much it had been missed.

I apologize for the site having let you all down...
However, this discussion right here has given me the resolve to start things back up again.
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Re: IMPORTANT: The Future of Brony Music

Postby SeventhElement » 01 Mar 2012 16:11

DJ Pon-3 wrote:Post


Yeah, I'd just hate it if there was something I'd wanna mix but the artist dropping off of the face of the planet or something. But yeah, we need to find something like this as well as get that site up.


sonic30 wrote:Hey guys.
Well, I'm sonic30 from the very same site we're talking about here, and I must say:
I had no idea we were missed this much. I mean, I knew we had a few people checking out the site regularly, but for somebody to say that they went to Equestrian Rhythm (or Equestrian Beat, whichever you prefer) more often than they went to Equestria Daily? That was a bit of a shocker to me.

As you can see, I'm not really dead. I just somehow managed to lose some e-mail information when switching e-mail addresses and such, but I've got it all recovered now. I won't say more about my disappearance, as it would sound like excuses, and I'd rather you not comment upon it. What's done is done.

However, I can honestly say that I would love to see a revival of the site, and I would gladly jump back on board to be able to start putting out more posts. Now that I have my old information back, and it's been made apparent that our little site wasn't so little, I will make an active effort to try and get Multi and Soggy back into things.
After all, I hadn't tried to revive the site by myself, as I didn't realize how much it had been missed.

I apologize for the site having let you all down...
However, this discussion right here has given me the resolve to start things back up again.
Thank you. All of you.

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Re: IMPORTANT: The Future of Brony Music

Postby sellyme » 01 Mar 2012 16:33

Multifish and myself just had a chat (we go to the same school).

99.5% chance that it's going to be back, bigger and better.
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Re: IMPORTANT: The Future of Brony Music

Postby sonic30 » 01 Mar 2012 16:38

sellyme wrote:Multifish and myself just had a chat (we go to the same school).

99.5% chance that it's going to be back, bigger and better.


99.5%?
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Re: IMPORTANT: The Future of Brony Music

Postby sellyme » 01 Mar 2012 16:40

He just asked me if he should bring back the site before he saw your post on EqR, I responded with a resounding yes. He's probably going to help.

(Take this with a grain of salt. Unlike me, he's actually doing work, so I can't talk to him much.)
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