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Re: Official Discussion thread (for discordshins)

Postby Facade » 10 Dec 2014 22:20

Acsii wrote:So I just got my early birthday present from myself. It's an EHX Big Muff Pi

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what amp are you using(couldnt quite make out what you said in the track)? im looking to upgrade soon and was looking for suggestions

are amps that are good at bass and guitar a thing?
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Re: Official Discussion thread (for discordshins)

Postby eery » 11 Dec 2014 05:10

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Literally just some default massive presets marked with "bell" at low octaves. Maybe some reverb here and there. The first one I recorded then reversed it and layered it over to make it more intresting.
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Re: Official Discussion thread (for discordshins)

Postby Acsii » 11 Dec 2014 05:24

Facade wrote:
Acsii wrote:So I just got my early birthday present from myself. It's an EHX Big Muff Pi

https://soundcloud.com/acsiident/so-i-got-a-big-muff

what amp are you using(couldnt quite make out what you said in the track)? im looking to upgrade soon and was looking for suggestions

are amps that are good at bass and guitar a thing?

I have an Orange amp. As for amps that work for both... not really... unless you have 2 different cabs and even then it wouldn't work as well as 2 amps. And I never actually said what my amp was XD
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Re: Official Discussion thread (for discordshins)

Postby Mr. Bigglesworth » 11 Dec 2014 06:46

If you're still using FL Studio, Facade, DX10 is pretty good for synthbells. I don't remember exactly how, but I think if you just mess with the coarse pitch and envelopes it'll sound bell-ish
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Re: Official Discussion thread (for discordshins)

Postby eery » 11 Dec 2014 06:57

making a basic bell is just a sinewave(or other wavetables with low amount of harmonics) with short attack, short decay, moderately short sustain, and a bit of release. To make it more intresting you can make the filter fuck about on the sustain with a lfo or whatever. I dont see why you need to flap about with the coarse pitch, dont really see how that would reinforce a bell, but hey, might be cool, havent done much with that.

Anyways, I went back and found what presets I used.first one was Artic bells. second one Underwater bells.
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Re: Official Discussion thread (for discordshins)

Postby Mr. Bigglesworth » 11 Dec 2014 07:07

I'm talking about the coarse pitch of the modulators. Changing that will effect the frequency modulation of the carrier and introduce more harmonics. So yeah it can kinda reinforce a bell, I just brought it up because I've used it to make bell sounds before.
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Re: Official Discussion thread (for discordshins)

Postby Facade » 11 Dec 2014 09:57

thanks guys ill look into all of that
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Re: Official Discussion thread (for discordshins)

Postby ph00tbag » 11 Dec 2014 11:30

When a linear object like a string (violin) or a column of air (trumpet) vibrates, its harmonics are all whole number ratios of the fundamental, because the geometry of a linear object constrains them to waves within two nodes that force a silently low pressure. With two dimensional objects like drum heads, or the sheets of metal that shape a bell, however, the geometry of the object gives a menagerie of nodes, which all have a variety of pressure tolerances. This means that the harmonic ratios are, well, irrational. Without proper tuning, you can get a sound that is entirely atonal (cymbal), because the chaotic nodes usually suppress the fundamental, and all that's left is the irrational harmonics, but with tuning to get rid of the nodes that suppress the fundamental, you can get a sound that is tonal, but with a vaguely untuned tonal quality (bells).

Frequency modulation introduces irrational harmonics to synth oscillators in much the same way as a two dimensional geometry, especially if your modulator frequency is set to a frequency that is not a whole number ratio of the carrier. At two modulators, you can usually get some very bell-like sounds. In a way, you can think of the modulators as the nodes on a vibrating object. If you keep them low, it's like tuning a drum; they don't drown out the fundamental, so even with the irrational harmonics they produce, it still sounds in tune. You can use a snappy envelope as well, to simulate the sound of striking the bell. Alternately, you can drive the modulators up a bunch to get really atonal, percussive sounds.

Don't bother with making them sound like actual percussion instruments, though. Unless you have a knack for the Calculus in three dimensions, then you can probably figure it out.
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Re: Official Discussion thread (for discordshins)

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Re: Official Discussion thread (for discordshins)

Postby DJ TATCM » 11 Dec 2014 15:00

ur horns are pretty tinny m808

i should do a jingle bells remix too it'd sound super nice as a juke/chicago footwork track aka fav genre

or maybe a jungle remix bc "jungle bells" and incorporate calculus of the third dimension with a healthy dose of topology for good measure

or maybe i should just mash it up with death grips yeah
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Re: Official Discussion thread (for discordshins)

Postby FLAOFEI » 11 Dec 2014 18:37

ph00tbag wrote:SCIENCE!

Yay science!
4 srs tho, thanx for the info. Where'd you learn stuff like that, and where do I sign up for that class?
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Re: Official Discussion thread (for discordshins)

Postby Bronies Are Cool » 12 Dec 2014 09:35

So my order of the book Past Sins finally came in the mail. :3 yay
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Re: Official Discussion thread (for discordshins)

Postby ph00tbag » 12 Dec 2014 10:29

FLAOFEI wrote:
ph00tbag wrote:SCIENCE!

Yay science!
4 srs tho, thanx for the info. Where'd you learn stuff like that, and where do I sign up for that class?

It was a once-a-week seminar I took at uni that through some kind of black magic filled both my science and art pre-reqs. It was called The Physics of Music. Mostly we studied one-dimensional vibrating objects. The section on two dimensional objects amounted to, "This material is advanced enough to require more maths than most of you can even, so it's outside the scope of this class." It was cool, though. The projects for the class were constructing unique string and wind instruments, then forming groups, and performing with one or both of our instruments. I don't recall how my string instrument worked, but my wind instrument was a slide didgeridoo.

I think they only offered it every other semester.
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Re: Official Discussion thread (for discordshins)

Postby FLAOFEI » 12 Dec 2014 17:44

I was hoping the cource had a slightly more descriptive name so I couldn maybe look for an equivalent cource in my college (I think it's college... or university... or maybe those two are the same). There are a few music related classes, and a lot of audio related classes, music technology, musical acoustics, speach music and hearing, and a few more. I'm guessing musical technology is the closest. I'll likley take both that one and music acoustics though, cause fun. I've got another year or two left till I can chose them thouh. For now I'm buissy enough with my math...
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Re: Official Discussion thread (for discordshins)

Postby ExoBassTix » 12 Dec 2014 18:39

Bronies Are Cool wrote:So my order of the book Past Sins finally came in the mail. :3 yay

Past Sins has a book? Hah, nice.
Happy birthday by the way!


I really hope I'll have enough money to afford a set of hardcover book of Fallout: Equestria. Preferably Project Horizons.
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Re: Official Discussion thread (for discordshins)

Postby Facade » 12 Dec 2014 20:01

why does usps always underestimate their delivery days?
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Re: Official Discussion thread (for discordshins)

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Re: Official Discussion thread (for discordshins)

Postby Facade » 12 Dec 2014 20:48

every time... ._.
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Re: Official Discussion thread (for discordshins)

Postby Mr. Bigglesworth » 12 Dec 2014 20:50

Jokeblue wrote:That actually sound super interesting and cool, and maybe if I ever see my Uni do an equivalent thing, I'll deffs give it a suss.

Speaking from my experience, it's not hard math but it's a lot of math.
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Re: Official Discussion thread (for discordshins)

Postby Bronies Are Cool » 12 Dec 2014 22:51

ExoBassTix wrote:
Bronies Are Cool wrote:So my order of the book Past Sins finally came in the mail. :3 yay

Past Sins has a book? Hah, nice.
Happy birthday by the way!


I really hope I'll have enough money to afford a set of hardcover book of Fallout: Equestria. Preferably Project Horizons.

Yes. It does have a book. I got the second edition printing. The first edition included side stories. This one only has the book.
When I read it the first time through, I read the original version, pre-season 2 version.
This one is post season 2 version so I'm sure that shining armor and discord will have some role in this book seeing that they had roles in Winter Bells.
This book is pretty big.
It's quite lovely. :3

Also, thanks about the birthday. You are officially the first person to say that to me. And also the only person to say that to me.
But that's also because it's December 12th right now in my time zone.
But I'll be officially 19 in about 2 hours and 9 minutes.

I did not know that fallout equestrian had a hard copy version.
If I were to begin reading it, which one was the first? And in what order should they be read?
(How many of them are there?)
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Re: Official Discussion thread (for discordshins)

Postby ph00tbag » 13 Dec 2014 10:28

FLAOFEI wrote:I was hoping the cource had a slightly more descriptive name so I couldn maybe look for an equivalent cource in my college (I think it's college... or university... or maybe those two are the same). There are a few music related classes, and a lot of audio related classes, music technology, musical acoustics, speach music and hearing, and a few more. I'm guessing musical technology is the closest. I'll likley take both that one and music acoustics though, cause fun. I've got another year or two left till I can chose them thouh. For now I'm buissy enough with my math...

I would say it's probably Muiscal Acoustics, seeing as Acoustics is the actual term for the branch of Physics relating to properties of sound.
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Re: Official Discussion thread (for discordshins)

Postby ExoBassTix » 13 Dec 2014 12:33

Bronies Are Cool wrote:
ExoBassTix wrote:I did not know that fallout equestrian had a hard copy version.
If I were to begin reading it, which one was the first? And in what order should they be read?
(How many of them are there?)

Well, Fallout: Equestria is a stand-alone story, it's just that a lot of people made their own sequels or derivatives off of it (meaning it's prolly best to start at the original). Aka. there's just one. Fallout: Equestria - Project Horizons is probably the most well-known 'sequel', and in my opinion it deserves to be because hooooooly moley it's good. I identify really closely to the main character, Blackjack. And really, I spent 5 months to get at chapter 71, the current last finished chapter. I'm waiting for the next one but I have no patience .n.
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Re: Official Discussion thread (for discordshins)

Postby Bronies Are Cool » 13 Dec 2014 13:31

ExoBassTix wrote:
Bronies Are Cool wrote:
ExoBassTix wrote:I did not know that fallout equestrian had a hard copy version.
If I were to begin reading it, which one was the first? And in what order should they be read?
(How many of them are there?)

Well, Fallout: Equestria is a stand-alone story, it's just that a lot of people made their own sequels or derivatives off of it (meaning it's prolly best to start at the original). Aka. there's just one. Fallout: Equestria - Project Horizons is probably the most well-known 'sequel', and in my opinion it deserves to be because hooooooly moley it's good. I identify really closely to the main character, Blackjack. And really, I spent 5 months to get at chapter 71, the current last finished chapter. I'm waiting for the next one but I have no patience .n.

How long is each chapter?
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Re: Official Discussion thread (for discordshins)

Postby ExoBassTix » 13 Dec 2014 18:35

Long.

I mean, the total of Project Horizons so far might just be nearing 1.5M words. At least 1.2M.
Alycs got through that in 2 weeks. Just no .n.
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Re: Official Discussion thread (for discordshins)

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