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Omnipony

Postby Ptepix » 31 Jan 2013 14:49

Who is reeeealy good friends with Omnipony?! :D anybody?
Because I for the longest time have wanted to see how he makes his Dubstep bass synths. Mostly to just to see what he does to come up with such cool sounds.
Anybody have synths that are either his or sound like his?
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Re: Omnipony

Postby Nine Volt » 31 Jan 2013 14:53

Just give us an example and we can probably tell you how to make it.
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Re: Omnipony

Postby Ptepix » 31 Jan 2013 14:59

My Little Changeling. All the wubs XD
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Re: Omnipony

Postby LFP » 31 Jan 2013 15:42

experiment mostly with the wavetable "chrome" in massive, should give you similar effects.
Layer it with a more high pitched lazer(a synth rapidly going up in pitch)/synth should give you a similar sound to his.
in this particular song he used a more mid-high synth with some detune on it from what I can hear. :3
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Re: Omnipony

Postby Ptepix » 31 Jan 2013 15:43

LFP wrote:experiment mostly with the wavetable "chrome" in massive, should give you similar effects.
Layer it with a more high pitched lazer(a synth rapidly going up in pitch)/synth should give you a similar sound to his.
in this particular song he used a more mid-high synth with some detune on it from what I can hear. :3


Hmm alright thanks :D
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Re: Omnipony

Postby cyrricky » 31 Jan 2013 15:53

Don't forget to boost the highs to infinity
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Re: Omnipony

Postby senntenial » 31 Jan 2013 15:55

I heard he also uses bass samples.
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Re: Omnipony

Postby senntenial » 31 Jan 2013 16:02

I'm going to doublepost to give you this advice, though:
A good foundation for a bass is totally rad and helps, but from my experiences, most of the magic happens in mixer processing. So make sure you spend equal time perfecting each.
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Re: Omnipony

Postby Ptepix » 31 Jan 2013 16:35

cyrricky wrote:Don't forget to boost the highs to infinity


Ok XD will do haha

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Re: Omnipony

Postby cplbradley » 31 Jan 2013 16:44

Don't forget to use the exact same preset in every one of your songs in the exact same way!
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Re: Omnipony

Postby Lavender_Harmony » 31 Jan 2013 16:55

I can see this thread getting really funny.

Ugh, I hate having to listen to this track though. The mixing is dreadful -.- Anyway, wubs...

From listening, the majority of it is a Digital Waveform in Massive, ie Chrome, Modern Talking, Iron, Arctic, it doesn't change much when you are processing them like this. Stick on Bend+/-, Turn on Phase Modulation for that Oscillator, set filter 1 to a Double notch, with a lot of resonance, filter 2 to lowpass, route 1 through 2 in series, then modulate absolutely everything, the bend amount, the wavetable position, the phase position, the filter cutoffs, use an Acid filter for a more 'wet' sounding wub like in MLC.

From there it's just about making a bunch of variations. The screechy synth can be easily made with a scream filter, modulating the cutoff, maybe stick a hard clipper on top.

Omni uses a lot of dimension expander on his bass sounds, which is a very bad practice. If you want to add width, use the Pan position in the Voicing tab in Massive. Or apply external chorus to a very subtle degree.

If you search out my 'Wub pack' here on MLR, it has a lot of similar sounds pre-made for you to deconstruct.
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Re: Omnipony

Postby Ptepix » 31 Jan 2013 17:01

Haha ok guise lol
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Re: Omnipony

Postby senntenial » 31 Jan 2013 23:07

Lav, I'm curious; why is dimension expander a bad practise? I know that putting too much on just sounds terrible, but I don't see the harm when using it in tandem with widening?
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Re: Omnipony

Postby Lavender_Harmony » 31 Jan 2013 23:45

It's basically a short reverb/delay device, and can cause severe phasing issues, as well as timing issues with any syncopated instruments, because of the delay caused. It also sounds horrid compared to simply using unison to add width.
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Re: Omnipony

Postby senntenial » 31 Jan 2013 23:47

I've found use for it when properly applied - it's not all the time that things should be perfectly lined up in my opinion.
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Re: Omnipony

Postby Lavender_Harmony » 01 Feb 2013 00:01

senntenial wrote:I've found use for it when properly applied - it's not all the time that things should be perfectly lined up in my opinion.


True, but I'd always prefer to use a short reverb I set myself, like Space Designer or Ambience :P Muuuuch more control over the sound, and I can actually EQ the input.
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Re: Omnipony

Postby Mr. Bigglesworth » 01 Feb 2013 00:10

Dimension Expander is something you should strongly apply the rule of "Less is more". I barely use it tbh.
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Re: Omnipony

Postby vladnuke » 01 Feb 2013 00:25

dat feel when you used dimension expander somewhere in all your tracks and now are slowly melting into spaghetti
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Re: Omnipony

Postby Mr. Bigglesworth » 01 Feb 2013 00:37

vladnuke wrote:dat feel when you used dimension expander somewhere in all your tracks and now are slowly melting into spaghetti


This warrants a feels hug.
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Re: Omnipony

Postby Motivfs » 01 Feb 2013 01:01

vladnuke wrote:dat feel when you used dimension expander somewhere in all your tracks and now are slowly melting into spaghetti


I get that feel regularly not just with dimension expander.
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Re: Omnipony

Postby Ptepix » 01 Feb 2013 01:52

Ok XD thanks for the tips I guess lol :D
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Re: Omnipony

Postby XXDarkShadow79XX » 01 Feb 2013 06:17

Lavender_Harmony wrote:It's basically a short reverb/delay device, and can cause severe phasing issues, as well as timing issues with any syncopated instruments, because of the delay caused. It also sounds horrid compared to simply using unison to add width.


It also sounds REALLY bad when you add distortion and release a note.
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Re: Omnipony

Postby Nine Volt » 01 Feb 2013 13:50

This thread is now about the dimension expander.
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Re: Omnipony

Postby froggy » 01 Feb 2013 14:20

I greatly prefer Massive's chorus effect to the dimension expander, especially the chorus ensemble. If you use it sparingly (i.e. only mix it in slightly), it creates a similar but much more natural sounding effect that makes dubsteppy/reese bass patches much more lively.

Anyway though, this is an Omnipony thread, not a chorus thread. Try using the modulation oscillator in filter FM mode, last time I tried that it sounded kinda like one of his basslines. I think he's got some Livestreams saved if you want specific details.
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Re: Omnipony

Postby Ptepix » 01 Feb 2013 14:39

Nine Volt wrote:This thread is now about the dimension expander.


Yes indeed :3 lol
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